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Osttruppen Trench and Arty Officer

27 Sep 2013, 17:55 PM
#1
avatar of Senseo1990

Posts: 305

Hey,

since there are some people who know their CoH2 stats in this forum I wanted to ask two questions:

What bonus do the new osttruppen commander trenches provide?

and

What about the +15% accuracy change to the artillery officer in the last patch? Does it only affect the AoE ability he has? And what were the previous bonuses it provided instead?
27 Sep 2013, 18:40 PM
#2
avatar of wooof

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Hey,

since there are some people who know their CoH2 stats in this forum I wanted to ask two questions:

What bonus do the new osttruppen commander trenches provide?

and

What about the +15% accuracy change to the artillery officer in the last patch? Does it only affect the AoE ability he has? And what were the previous bonuses it provided instead?


i havent looked into it too much, but i believe the doctrinal trenches are just like normal trenches.

Code
| | | tp_trench: {
| | | | accuracy_multiplier: 0.2f;
| | | | damage_multiplier: 0.3f;
| | | | penetration_multiplier: 1f;
| | | | suppression_multiplier: 0f;


as opposed to heavy cover:

Code
| | | tp_heavy: {
| | | | accuracy_multiplier: 0.5f;
| | | | damage_multiplier: 0.5f;
| | | | penetration_multiplier: 1f;
| | | | suppression_multiplier: 0.1f;
27 Sep 2013, 18:59 PM
#3
avatar of Senseo1990

Posts: 305

I knew that wooof would come to the rescue :P


The those are all incoming, accuracy, damage and suppression right?

Heavy cover only provides 50% damage reduction and trenches 80%?

And with normal trenches you mean the wehrmacht ones that can be upgraded to med stations etc I suppose.
27 Sep 2013, 19:04 PM
#4
avatar of rofltehcat

Posts: 604


And with normal trenches you mean the wehrmacht ones that can be upgraded to med stations etc I suppose.

Those are from the cover tables. Every weapon has one and depending on what kind of cover the target is in the attacker gets different modifiers.
Up to this update I just assumed that the "trench" cover type was from single player only... is there a way to check if they actually provide trench cover or garrison cover instead?
27 Sep 2013, 19:10 PM
#5
avatar of alexshiro

Posts: 62

jump backJump back to quoted post27 Sep 2013, 18:40 PMwooof


i havent looked into it too much, but i believe the doctrinal trenches are just like normal trenches.


There are non-doctrinal trenches?
27 Sep 2013, 19:19 PM
#6
avatar of wooof

Posts: 950 | Subs: 1

sorry i wasnt very clear in my post.

senseo, those are the multipliers applied to small arms firing at trenches. technically they are unique to each weapon, but the vast majority of small arms have identical cover tables.

rofltehcat makes a good point though. the units technically are garrisoned in the trench. its possible they only recieve a garrison bonus, not the trench bonus. i did say i havent looked into this much :) ill try to test/read more later.

but there are trenches in multiplayer. not "non-doctrinal" but prebuilt on the map. city 17 winter has a lot of them. steppes has a couple by the center fuel. units dont garrison in these though, so its very possible that rofltehcat may be on to something.
27 Sep 2013, 19:24 PM
#7
avatar of Senseo1990

Posts: 305

Thanks for the clarification.

I didnt even know that the normal map-trenches provide more cover than heavy cover. Or is heavy cover yellow cover?

And i definitely didnt know that garrisoned units have an inferior bonus to that.

I need to learn the basics :P
27 Sep 2013, 23:10 PM
#8
avatar of MoonHoplite

Posts: 85

Arty officer used to have 15% accuracy, -15% cooldown, -15% reload.

I think it's just now 15% accuracy, not too useful...?
5 Oct 2013, 10:05 AM
#9
avatar of wooof

Posts: 950 | Subs: 1

not sure if anyone still cares, but its confirmed that osttruppen trenches do offer trench cover, not garrison cover.
5 Oct 2013, 10:26 AM
#10
avatar of Turtle

Posts: 401

The on map trenches are different from normal heavy cover? Interesting.
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