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I think the comet tank is due for a buff.

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10 Feb 2019, 21:14 PM
#161
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but then what does that nuber means ?
10 Feb 2019, 21:48 PM
#162
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not all cover bounce, and i get the stats from coh2db too
it says 6.3 aoe on p4 and 6.7 on comet

Copy pasted from https://coh2db.com/stats/#154. I hope I'm looking at the right place:

AoE for P4:
AOE Radius 2.5
Distance near 0.75
Distance mid 1.25
Distance far 1.875
Damage near 160
Damage mid 56
Damage far 8
80 DMG distance 1.13
Damage all in hold false
Damage friendly near 80
Damage friendly far 4

AoE for Comet:
AOE Radius 2.5
Distance near 0.25
Distance mid 1
Distance far 1.5
Damage near 160
Damage mid 64
Damage far 32
80 DMG distance 0.88
Damage all in hold true
Damage friendly near 80
Damage friendly far 16

Scatter for P4:
Scatter angle 5.6
Distance offset 0.25
Distance ratio 0.87
Distance max 4.8

Scatter for Comet:
Scatter angle 7.5
Distance offset 0.25
Distance ratio 1
Distance max 6.4

Assuming I'm reading this right and looking at the right stuff, P4 is solidly better in terms of both AoE and scatter with better reload times and better veterancy as well.
ddd
10 Feb 2019, 22:04 PM
#163
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Does anyone seriously belive that this tank is worth 185 fuel? Lets forget for a moment that you need to spend 50 fuel on side tech that will lock you out from churchill. Considering how bad cromwell is i think there is a place for a slightly improved medium tank in british tech, simillar to how t34/85 is improvement to t34/76. Simply dropping the price to 420mp and 160 fuel would be enough without any changes to the unit itself.
11 Feb 2019, 00:56 AM
#164
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i know what u mean but then when u over the yellows circle a number appears and it says aoe:6.7
11 Feb 2019, 00:59 AM
#165
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jump backJump back to quoted post10 Feb 2019, 22:04 PMddd
Does anyone seriously belive that this tank is worth 185 fuel? Lets forget for a moment that you need to spend 50 fuel on side tech that will lock you out from churchill. Considering how bad cromwell is i think there is a place for a slightly improved medium tank in british tech, simillar to how t34/85 is improvement to t34/76. Simply dropping the price to 420mp and 160 fuel would be enough without any changes to the unit itself.
??? do u even know it's stats ?
11 Feb 2019, 01:20 AM
#166
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i know what u mean but then when u over the yellows circle a number appears and it says aoe:6.7


Dunno, average damage based on area ?
16 Feb 2019, 09:05 AM
#167
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Comet may need some buff on its MGs to provide more AI fire power as its rate of fire maybe the lowest among all tanks.
16 Feb 2019, 10:28 AM
#168
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Comet may need some buff on its MGs to provide more AI fire power as its rate of fire maybe the lowest among all tanks.

It also desperately needs vet that increases that rate of fire as its the only tank in game which does not have one.

Comet vet is so strong, it might just as well have none past vet1 and it would literally make zero difference.
16 Feb 2019, 22:49 PM
#169
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i know what u mean but then when u over the yellows circle a number appears and it says aoe:6.7

I mean just reading that it seems wrong knowing that distances are usually meters in this game. A 6.7m radius AoE would probably hit entire squads and almost never miss from scatter. That just seems way off.
17 Feb 2019, 10:10 AM
#170
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i think hammer tactics need 1 more additional option

What about giving "top mounted vickers MG" to hammer tactics?

18 Feb 2019, 19:35 PM
#171
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I do like the idea of the extra range buff on Comet!
18 Feb 2019, 19:36 PM
#172
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I do like the idea of the extra range buff on Comet!
no both panther and comet were nerfed for a reason, 45 range is good enough for both, buff the reload
18 Feb 2019, 21:05 PM
#173
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no both panther and comet were nerfed for a reason, 45 range is good enough for both, buff the reload


Panthers have 50 range. Which is appropriate given its role as a heavy tank destroyer, as opposed to the generalist Comet (40 range).

+5 range with vet could be a nice buff for the Comet.
18 Feb 2019, 21:32 PM
#174
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no both panther and comet were nerfed for a reason, 45 range is good enough for both, buff the reload

Nerf range on panthers.......

Are you talking about BETA 60 range, 1280 health panthers?
Because since release up until now Panther always had 50 range.
18 Feb 2019, 22:35 PM
#175
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jump backJump back to quoted post18 Feb 2019, 21:32 PMKatitof

Nerf range on panthers.......

Are you talking about BETA 60 range, 1280 health panthers?
Because since release up until now Panther always had 50 range.
yes
18 Feb 2019, 22:55 PM
#176
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yes

Why?
At that time elephant was a STOCK unit.
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