Easy 8 Change Suggestions

Jump back to quoted post21 Jan 2019, 15:17 PMinsaneHoshi

Then next time say that instead of butchering the English language.

Plus it's AOE is decient, what is the issue?

Jump back to quoted post22 Jan 2019, 17:26 PMmondeogaming1

its AOE its decent ? put E8 vs p4 vs infrantry and oyu will see or even with a panther (stop butchering english languege plz)

Jump back to quoted post22 Jan 2019, 17:37 PMinsaneHoshi

Put E8 vs p4 vs a tank with any semblance of armour.

Furthermore p4 has 2.5 AOE with 6.5 scatter and e8 has 2 AOE with 5 scatter. Stop using "alternative facts" when saying E8 has bad AOE.

Jump back to quoted post22 Jan 2019, 17:37 PMinsaneHoshi

Put E8 vs p4 vs a tank with any semblance of armour.

Furthermore p4 has 2.5 AOE with 6.5 scatter and e8 has 2 AOE with 5 scatter. Stop using "alternative facts" when saying E8 has bad AOE.

Jump back to quoted post22 Jan 2019, 17:37 PMinsaneHoshi

Put E8 vs p4 vs a tank with any semblance of armour.

Furthermore p4 has 2.5 AOE with 6.5 scatter and e8 has 2 AOE with 5 scatter. Stop using "alternative facts" when saying E8 has bad AOE.

Jump back to quoted post22 Jan 2019, 17:51 PMmondeogaming1

Let me say this E8 mid and long range has chances to bounce p4

Jump back to quoted post22 Jan 2019, 17:51 PMmondeogaming1

even from OST p4 armour like 180 armour p4 ez pen 200/165/155 it bounces still and E8 rate of fire is so parthetic not even killing infrantry and dont get me even started with OKW p4 234 armour faster relaod and more AOE

Jump back to quoted post22 Jan 2019, 17:47 PMEtherealDragon

Thank you for the comparison. Offhand do you know how that compares to Comet's performance vs. Infantry?

Jump back to quoted post22 Jan 2019, 19:01 PMStug life

lol what are u on ?
P4 has 6,2 aoe and the way 8 has 6.5 , what u saw was the near aoe not the full one
Less scatter = better chance to hit

Jump back to quoted post22 Jan 2019, 19:19 PMinsaneHoshi

What exactly is your point? The P4 Can bounce off of m36s does that mean the m36 has high armour?



Ok lets do some math then.

e8 vs OST p4: 155/180 = 86%
e8 vs OKW p4: 155/234 = 66%
p4 vs e8: 110/215 = 51%

Much wow. Looking at the stats it seems that the e8 has much better chances to penetrate, isn't it weird how looking at the stats can disprove the idea that because something can deflect a shot doesn't mean that's a probable occurrence.

FYI the reload comparison is 5.3/5.7 vs 6/6.6 which isn't that large of a difference.




Comet has 2.5 AOE, but it a worse AOE Profile than the p4 and 7.5 scatter angle. You can find further information here: https://www.coh2db.com/stats/#56



Im getting my stats from coh2db.com/stats.

There it lists p4 having 2.5 AOE with 6.5 scatter angle and the e8 has 2.0 AOE with 5 scatter angle. Where are you getting your info?

For the record I was looking at OKWs p4. OST p4 has a 2.5 AOE and 7.5 scatter.

Jump back to quoted post22 Jan 2019, 19:31 PMmondeogaming1

From the moment that you SAID p4 110 pen i know you dont know a damn about the LATESTS stats and the game conversation closed

Jump back to quoted post22 Jan 2019, 19:19 PMinsaneHoshi

Im getting my stats from coh2db.com/stats.

There it lists p4 having 2.5 AOE with 6.5 scatter angle and the e8 has 2.0 AOE with 5 scatter angle. Where are you getting your info?

For the record I was looking at OKWs p4. OST p4 has a 2.5 AOE and 7.5 scatter.

Jump back to quoted post22 Jan 2019, 19:31 PMmondeogaming1

From the moment that you SAID p4 110 pen i know you dont know a damn about the LATESTS stats and the game conversation closed

Jump back to quoted post22 Jan 2019, 19:42 PMStug life

SAME SITE BUT TO CHECK THE AOE u need to hover over the yellow point in the graf
it's 6,3 p4 and 6,8 e8 and as i said lower scatter means better

Jump back to quoted post22 Jan 2019, 19:55 PMinsaneHoshi

I don't think that's true, hovering over it lists it as having an AOE of 8.4, so I have no idea how that is calculated. I think I'll stick to the listed numbers below.

Jump back to quoted post22 Jan 2019, 19:37 PMLago

That's the Panzer IV's far penetration.

Jump back to quoted post22 Jan 2019, 19:53 PMinsaneHoshi

Lol wat?

"How dare you quote the numbers of the game at me"

Jump back to quoted post23 Jan 2019, 12:43 PMmondeogaming1

i am not even going to correct you just for you to search the real p4 pen

Jump back to quoted post23 Jan 2019, 16:33 PMinsaneHoshi

Which is 110 at far range? Would you prefer to bring up that's it has ~125 pen at near range which is pritty unrealistic for a tank fight and the E8 has a much higher pen increase from far to near as well.

Are you just trying to find a minuscule error so that you can pretend that you are not saying things that are demonstrably false.[/quotealright i thouth you put the max pen of p4 vs min pen or E8 E8 is a commadner unit it sohuld be better than default we can settle this 1v1 when EVER you want 1v1 me

Jump back to quoted post23 Jan 2019, 16:38 PMmondeogaming1

Jump back to quoted post23 Jan 2019, 16:33 PMinsaneHoshi

Which is 110 at far range? Would you prefer to bring up that's it has ~125 pen at near range which is pritty unrealistic for a tank fight and the E8 has a much higher pen increase from far to near as well.

Are you just trying to find a minuscule error so that you can pretend that you are not saying things that are demonstrably false.

alright i thouth you put the max pen of p4 vs min pen or E8 E8 is a commadner unit it sohuld be better than default we can settle this 1v1 when EVER you want 1v1 me

Jump back to quoted post23 Jan 2019, 16:47 PMinsaneHoshi

I clearly both compared the far penetration.

And how is a 1v1 supposed to prove anything? This isn't medieval Germany where a trial by combat proves by god who is right.

Jump back to quoted post23 Jan 2019, 12:42 PMmondeogaming1

ik but that dude says that 110 is the max one