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Give me back MP44 Storm Rifle upgrade option

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14 Dec 2018, 14:44 PM
#41
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jump backJump back to quoted post14 Dec 2018, 14:27 PMKatitof

Its 100% irrelevant which side you play, if you spell bullshit, you will be called out on it.
You look at balance through pov of no skill, all spam mode.

OBVIOUSLY you will see a unit that actually requires most basic micro to success as bad, especially if your skill starts and ends on spamming emplacements.
ESPECIALLY if you never even used it and just prising to the choir.


every game is spam mode even 1v1 2v2

what do you afraid

anyway, you should do aplogize to any 4v4 players sitting 1-200 rank

i don't think they will forgive you that calling them no skill

we are talking about balance, attacking is pointless

in fact, emplacement are op
but people say its fine
so its fine
i build it ever :P
14 Dec 2018, 14:57 PM
#42
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every game is spam mode even 1v1 2v2

what do you afraid

Its you who are afraid to face the facts here....

anyway, you should do aplogize to any 4v4 players sitting 1-200 rank

i don't think they will forgive you that calling them no skill

Suuuure, they are winners, but they still particiapte in special olympics there.

we are talking about balance, attacking is pointless

in fact, emplacement are op
but people say its fine
so its fine
i build it ever :P

Yeah, that's pretty popular opinion in 4s, in 2s and 1s emplacements do nothing for anyone remotely capable.

Use storms in 1s or 2s, then complain.
14 Dec 2018, 15:14 PM
#43
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As demonstrated by CELO time and time again, the main balance issue with 4v4 is not the game itself rather than the matchmaking.
There's merit to custom 4v4 arranged teams facing each other. Automatch with rainbow colour games is another history.


ITT: people wanting a different skin for the weapon Stormtroopers are holding because they associate Mp40 to Pios.
14 Dec 2018, 15:43 PM
#44
avatar of MysteriousHeroKK

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As demonstrated by CELO time and time again, the main balance issue with 4v4 is not the game itself rather than the matchmaking.
There's merit to custom 4v4 arranged teams facing each other. Automatch with rainbow colour games is another history.


ITT: people wanting a different skin for the weapon Stormtroopers are holding because they associate Mp40 to Pios.


just like people don't want rangers equip m3 gun

they are cp elite troops so they should have reasonable performance.
stormtroopers have wrose performance than his counterpart
even every counterpart is cheaper

they downgrade stormtroopers today.
next time they will change pioneers's mp40 to pistol gun. Reason: too many mp40 clone units
14 Dec 2018, 16:05 PM
#45
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jump backJump back to quoted post14 Dec 2018, 14:57 PMKatitof

Its you who are afraid to face the facts here....


Suuuure, they are winners, but they still particiapte in special olympics there.


Yeah, that's pretty popular opinion in 4s, in 2s and 1s emplacements do nothing for anyone remotely capable.

Use storms in 1s or 2s, then complain.



i totally accepted the facts and then play emplacement.
it doesn't make sense that i afraid to face the facts.

you didn't play stormtroopers before.
so you won't understand why they should have stg44.
that's all.
14 Dec 2018, 18:28 PM
#46
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just like people don't want rangers equip m3 gun

they are cp elite troops so they should have reasonable performance.
stormtroopers have wrose performance than his counterpart
even every counterpart is cheaper

they downgrade stormtroopers today.
next time they will change pioneers's mp40 to pistol gun. Reason: too many mp40 clone units


But, statistically, it won't matter what weapon a unit is holding if the stats are changed to reflect cost. Obersoldaten and Ostruppen both have k98 rifles, but the ober rifle is better.

It really feels like the only issue you have is that the MP40 doesn't look or sound as cool as the STG44, so you assume it is worse. No-one complains that paratroopers and rangers use the same weapon as Rear Echelon because the weapons only look similar; statistically they are completely different.

Old Stormtroopers were good because you could drop 100 muni on them, then wait till close range and ambush with tactical assault. You can do the same thing with the new MP40 Stormtroopers, but now you don't need to pay 100 munitions for their weapons, and the tactical assault is actually MORE effective at close range when it is popped. In addition, with their new camo, you can sneak around actively, instead of waiting stationary behind cover. If you used to use Stormtroopers to ambush, you should LOVE the new changes.
14 Dec 2018, 20:50 PM
#47
avatar of LoopDloop

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*Gets one of the highest close dps weapons per gun in the entire game as a free upgrade on a squad that can now camouflage even better*

*still complains*
14 Dec 2018, 21:56 PM
#48
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Aside from the multiple things that could be invised in this thread, do these storms beat thompson paras at range 10?
14 Dec 2018, 22:47 PM
#49
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Storm troopers where always good at ambushing, even before the patch. You guys are acting like it wasn't before and thus is a buff lol. With the STG's the storm troopers where EFFECTIVE AT ALL RANGES, with the addition of better cloak, flame nades and smoke (+removal of bundle nade) was all the changes needed and would have provided enough reason to choose them over Pz grenadiers. But with mp40s, it diminishes ther combat capability compared to having STG's.
14 Dec 2018, 22:51 PM
#50
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Aside from the multiple things that could be invised in this thread, do these storms beat thompson paras at range 10?

Out of cover and out of ambush?
they would be op if they could, considering investment difference.
15 Dec 2018, 00:45 AM
#51
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Aside from the multiple things that could be invised in this thread, do these storms beat thompson paras at range 10?


I wish "unapolagetic ignorance" was a bannable offense.

Anyways, Stormtroopers do no beat Thompson Paratroopers at 10 range. Neither does it beat Thompson Rangers, Shocks, or Commandos. At this range, however, their combat power is easily greater than Sturmpioneers or Assault Grenadiers.
15 Dec 2018, 01:06 AM
#52
avatar of MysteriousHeroKK

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Aside from the multiple things that could be invised in this thread, do these storms beat thompson paras at range 10?


they have 4 men
Old version they could deal dmg to paras
they just better than pgs
new version they better run before any counterpart coming
the shot range causing they are wrose than pgs , completely

15 Dec 2018, 03:05 AM
#53
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I wish "unapolagetic ignorance" was a bannable offense.

Anyways, Stormtroopers do no beat Thompson Paratroopers at 10 range. Neither does it beat Thompson Rangers, Shocks, or Commandos. At this range, however, their combat power is easily greater than Sturmpioneers or Assault Grenadiers.

Just lock this thread, it's one guy trolling and everyone telling him he's wrong for 3 pages.
15 Dec 2018, 04:18 AM
#54
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After further consideration and review, I concur.

/locked.
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