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26 Sep 2018, 21:49 PM
#1221
avatar of Widerstreit

Posts: 1392

In my opinion the artillery officer is still better than the 250 with MG in German-Infantry-Commander.


Also the hole 250 is in a confusing spot. I don't see the use of MG for it. Why not let it the normal transporter with passive Vet and maybe a repair ability like UC.

If you really want the suppression platform, why not give them the 251 with MG and remove the MG of standard 251. The normal 251 don't really need the MGs.
26 Sep 2018, 21:53 PM
#1222
avatar of A. Soldier

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In my opinion the artillery officer is still better than the 250 with MG in German-Infantry-Commander.


Also the hole 250 is in a confusing spot. I don't see the use of MG for it. Why not let it the normal transporter with passive Vet and maybe a repair ability like UC.

If you really want the suppression platform, why not give them the 251 with MG and remove the MG of standard 251. The normal 251 don't really need the MGs.


I agree that it's in a weird spot, I don't really see a point in a bigger Kubel that can't cap and a Halftrack that can't reinforce.

26 Sep 2018, 22:03 PM
#1223
avatar of Katitof

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I agree that it's in a weird spot, I don't really see a point in a bigger Kubel that can't cap and a Halftrack that can't reinforce.


Its ost clown car with much more durability and some added utility.
26 Sep 2018, 22:04 PM
#1224
avatar of Widerstreit

Posts: 1392

So... after the Sdkfz FlaK nerf also OKW has some suppression troubles. Why not give MG34 to Ostheer instead of MG42 and make the MG for Sdkfz 251 be a upgrade like the flamer.

That would solve the MG op-ness of Ostheer in early. Also would buff the Sdkfz 251 to an useful level.
26 Sep 2018, 22:06 PM
#1225
avatar of Katitof

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So... after the Sdkfz FlaK nerf also OKW has some suppression troubles. Why not give MG34 to Ostheer instead of MG42 and make the MG for Sdkfz 251 be a upgrade like the flamer.

That would solve the MG op-ness of Ostheer in early. Also would buff the Sdkfz 251 to an useful level.

Okw flak ht wasn't nerfed at all and suppresses everything that isn't behind green cover in 1 burst.
Quit doing drugs.
26 Sep 2018, 22:10 PM
#1226
avatar of Widerstreit

Posts: 1392

@Katitof Got hard-nerfed last patch... is it really necessary to explain everything for you? Maybe you should start playing the game instead of writing lies.
26 Sep 2018, 22:18 PM
#1227
avatar of jagd wölfe

Posts: 1660

jump backJump back to quoted post26 Sep 2018, 22:06 PMKatitof

Okw flak ht wasn't nerfed at all and suppresses everything that isn't behind green cover in 1 burst.
Quit doing drugs.


Update: 17th of May 2018

"SdKfz 251/17 Flak Halftrack
The 251 flak is having its suppression reduced to prevent it from immediately pinning squads; smoke cost has been increased to make quick escapes more costly
• Suppression reduced from 0.3 to 0.15
• Concealment smoke increased from to 25/15 to 35/25 at veterancy 0/1"

Other than that, flak ht has been delayed of 5 fuel points with teching changes in the same patch.

Flak ht suppression would go from 1 burst outside of cover to 2 to green covered squads.

Also stop being an utter ass that never got enough mom's love to begin with, regardless, but especially if what you said is objectively wrong.
14 of 18 Relic postsRelic 26 Sep 2018, 22:22 PM
#1228
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Hotfix deployed for Stromtrooper smoke bug.
26 Sep 2018, 22:24 PM
#1229
avatar of LoopDloop

Posts: 3047

Has there been any word on the new commanders that are supposed to come in this patch too? Are those still going to be a thing?
26 Sep 2018, 22:26 PM
#1230
avatar of Widerstreit

Posts: 1392

Has there been any word on the new commanders that are supposed to come in this patch too? Are those still going to be a thing?


I think they will arrive in a separate patch later.
15 of 18 Relic postsRelic 26 Sep 2018, 22:29 PM
#1231
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I think they will arrive in a separate patch later.


This :) We want to concentrate on getting this update right before we turn our attention to the new commanders.
26 Sep 2018, 22:38 PM
#1232
avatar of LoopDloop

Posts: 3047

jump backJump back to quoted post26 Sep 2018, 22:29 PMAndy_RE


This :) We want to concentrate on getting this update right before we turn our attention to the new commanders.

Ok cool thank you for the swift reply. Seems like a good plan.
26 Sep 2018, 22:41 PM
#1233
avatar of Katitof

Posts: 17629 | Subs: 9



Update: 17th of May 2018

"SdKfz 251/17 Flak Halftrack
The 251 flak is having its suppression reduced to prevent it from immediately pinning squads; smoke cost has been increased to make quick escapes more costly
• Suppression reduced from 0.3 to 0.15
• Concealment smoke increased from to 25/15 to 35/25 at veterancy 0/1"

Other than that, flak ht has been delayed of 5 fuel points with teching changes in the same patch.

Flak ht suppression would go from 1 burst outside of cover to 2 to green covered squads.

Also stop being an utter ass that never got enough mom's love to begin with, regardless, but especially if what you said is objectively wrong.

1)Its not relevant for this thread
2)It still suppresses with single burst, just not pins in that single burst any longer
26 Sep 2018, 22:51 PM
#1234
avatar of Widerstreit

Posts: 1392

@Katitof It is relevant to know the patch-history to give feedback. And after my question if 250 is really needed, I gave a counter idea.

I don't know what you are trying to say. Give feedbacks or ideas, don't be a troublemaker.


It seems you have troblems with constructive feedback. Even for bugs etc. there is an extra thread, so.
26 Sep 2018, 22:55 PM
#1235
avatar of jagd wölfe

Posts: 1660

jump backJump back to quoted post26 Sep 2018, 22:41 PMKatitof

1)Its not relevant for this thread
2)It still suppresses with single burst, just not pins in that single burst any longer


1) It is to what i quoted, flak ht was nerfed in the last patch. No problem in getting something wrong, i'm just saying it to avoid misinformation
2) It doesn't, at least not if each model is in actual green cover. Test it by youself. The cover they are behind soaks a lot of shots, as like every other projectile based weapon. Different is something like tank traps or a cover with barely any space for the whole team, but when a proper solid cover applies, mg's can suppress even faster than what flak does.
Sometimes even 2 bursts wouldn't do anything but paint the target test cover.

Faymont ville stone walls are perfect for the test
26 Sep 2018, 23:06 PM
#1236
avatar of Kasarov
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Soviet 76mm HVAP?!

All hail the revival of Soviet lend lease except I know that almost everything else in there is bad
Still will be much fun to play around with!
26 Sep 2018, 23:51 PM
#1237
avatar of Cyra

Posts: 19

Sorta sad to see that the Soviet Commissar loses his Forward Retreat point ability; I understand he was pretty broken being able to heal and act as a Forward Retreat point, but couldn't the same be made to the Ostheer's Artillery Field Officer? Both Soviet and Ostheer don't have any type of Forward Retreat point system unlike the USF, UKF and OKW so again, I'm just sad to see it go in this patch update.

Other improvements however are welcome and thank god you fixed the 221/223 recrewing crash, it literally interrupted a full game with some friends when we playtested 1.5.
26 Sep 2018, 23:51 PM
#1238
avatar of JibberJabberJobber

Posts: 1602 | Subs: 3

Can the price of the forward observation post price be adjusted? Currently it's 60 fuel compared to the 10 fuel upgrade at the forward assembly. (only read the 1.6 changelog so not sure if it has been changed already).

Btw, grats to the balance team, seems like lots of great improvements in 1.6! :D
27 Sep 2018, 01:18 AM
#1239
avatar of LemonJuice

Posts: 1144 | Subs: 7

why do concrete bunkers cost popcap, when every other repair bay does not? i think either make the other repair bays cost popcap as well or make only the mg upgrade cost popcap.
27 Sep 2018, 03:52 AM
#1240
avatar of MatadorEvren

Posts: 4

jump backJump back to quoted post26 Sep 2018, 22:29 PMAndy_RE


This :) We want to concentrate on getting this update right before we turn our attention to the new commanders.


Hi,

When will we use revamp patch in automatch?
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