the cromwell need buffs

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I'd personally be down with a slight scatter buff (I'm not sure if Tank Commander improves scatter as "accuracy" but I suppose one option would be to increase Tank Commander cost and buff it slightly to buff scatter). That way stock Cromwell is same but you can get a better Cromwell at a munitions cost.

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Cromwell's are too RNG'ey because they only have their cannon as a weapon (their machine gun is like a water spout). They need at least a machine gun upgrade to even out the RNG so they can more reliably kill infantry. That would go a long way to making them feel not feel so underpowered at times.

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I check some stats Cromwell have Low AOE distance range 1.5/1/0.25
Pz4 have 1.875/1.25/0.75
T-34 have 1.875/1.25/0.625
Sherman have 1.5/1/0.5 (AP round) 2.25/1.25/0.5 (he round)

Value 0.25 it too low for AI Role ?

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I like how the sherman AP has more AoE than the cromwell round XD

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19 Jun 2018, 14:41 PMShadowLinkX37

I like the ideas, just need to consider other things like vet and the commander. I think it still needs a scatter buff. Even if it reloads 1 second earlier it still struggles to hit anything past range 20.

+1

That's really the big problem I see with it and the comet; I think they are kind of weak against infantry considering they are supposed to be generalist tanks.

Does anyone have the exact stats for the commander? Would probably be a useful piece of information for this thread.

21 Jun 2018, 18:01 PMShadowLinkX37

I like how the sherman AP has more AoE than the cromwell round XD

Ok that's how you know cromwell needs a buff XD

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21 Jun 2018, 18:01 PMShadowLinkX37

I like how the sherman AP has more AoE than the cromwell round XD

I always thought it was strange. Imo the HE should be better than average AI at the cost of AT and vice versa for the AP. Not just as good or better and then also a chance to eat infantry if there's no armour around...

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21 Jun 2018, 17:40 PMwandererraven

I check some stats Cromwell have Low AOE distance range 1.5/1/0.25
Pz4 have 1.875/1.25/0.75
T-34 have 1.875/1.25/0.625
Sherman have 1.5/1/0.5 (AP round) 2.25/1.25/0.5 (he round)

Value 0.25 it too low for AI Role ?

their damage profile is different

pz4: .05/.35/1 (8/56/160)
cromwell: .2/.4/1 (32/64/160)

(after some rough calculation)

1.5 1 0.875 0.25

32 64 80 160

1.875 1.25 1.13 0.75
8 56 80 160

cromwell HE is theoretically more consistent as it still deal noticeable damage out to 2.5 meter, but the panzer 4 AOE have a bigger OHK radius. I think it's a wash.

However, This still leave the panzer 4 with a faster reload and the assisting mg.

The goal with the faster reload and lower penetration is to balance out the mg in anti-personnel situation, still the pan panzer4 will still have better armor and penetration during a head on head duel.

The cromwell will either use its sight to pluck away at 40 meter, and exploit situation where its greater reload can fire at rear armor.