Reading this thread makes me sad. Not that don't agree with the complaint, it's just that it seems like it's impossible to have a game that is both competitively balanced and fun at the same time.
Make all Loiter plane abilities a lined strafe
22 Feb 2018, 09:49 AM
#21
Posts: 587
Being bad at the game isn't something balance patches can fix.
22 Feb 2018, 13:59 PM
#22
Posts: 5279
I mean... At least you need LOS for them now eh? 180-240mu to contribute to/againat a push isnt something you can do all the time...
#stalinwept
22 Feb 2018, 14:29 PM
#23
Posts: 2066
Well stuka loiter can kill your aa units pretty fast so yeah..
Kappa
22 Feb 2018, 15:14 PM
#24
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Is there a way to have the speeds of the plane varied depending on where the skill is called in on the map?
If we standardized the time it take for the plane to get there than we can balance single strafe runs, drop the costs of the abilities, and reduce their overvalue effectiveness. Another thing you'd have to consider is the use of AA vehicles since loiters are out or if they should serve as the main role.
I do love a good skill plane however.
If we standardized the time it take for the plane to get there than we can balance single strafe runs, drop the costs of the abilities, and reduce their overvalue effectiveness. Another thing you'd have to consider is the use of AA vehicles since loiters are out or if they should serve as the main role.
I do love a good skill plane however.
22 Feb 2018, 15:22 PM
#25
Posts: 2742
Strategic Territory Points Mod:
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Classic resource points!
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Classic resource points!
22 Feb 2018, 17:35 PM
#26
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White's cheating! Fix bugs plz. Ban white.
White opening OP.
Step 1: Make all loiter planes skill planes.
Step 2: Make all planes first arrive to target location and loiter around before delivering it's payload. Bombing runs might or not be included.
Step 3: Once the plane is on the called area, the player has X amount of time to select an area he wants to strafe. For the current loiter planes, it's a matter of increasing the loitering duration and setting a specific amount of times you can use the strafe.
My controls weren't working
And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
Bible of Scrublord, Psalt 3:16.
And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
Bible of Scrublord, Psalt 3:16.
22 Feb 2018, 19:58 PM
#27
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Just because something can be countered doesn't make it good design. And even with counters I've seen loiters last their entire duration.
The fact is loiters require almost no player input while basically being a full on assault on their own, denying large amounts of territory and normally causing a full on retreat.
Players can hope an AA unit will knock out the loiter but most of the time it is not reliable and you'll end up losing units waiting for the AA to do its job.
+1
23 Feb 2018, 00:06 AM
#28
Posts: 2635 | Subs: 4
Permanently Banned@@@I feel like a good example of this is the Advanced Warfare Doc for Soviets. This doc had a strafe for the IL2 Sturmovik attacks instead of a loiter. While this ability is still strong it is much more situational when compared to the loitering.@@@@
Yes, try to hit 1-2 models with that strafe taht cost 120 muni, that ability is even more broken than skill planes.
Adapt to patch and use AA units.
Loiter need change a litle, but with you changes, game lose all strafe.
How i must use Advanced Warfare Doc in big map ? What you can hit at Stepps map ? Better have planes like this, then dont have them.
Yes, try to hit 1-2 models with that strafe taht cost 120 muni, that ability is even more broken than skill planes.
Adapt to patch and use AA units.
Loiter need change a litle, but with you changes, game lose all strafe.
How i must use Advanced Warfare Doc in big map ? What you can hit at Stepps map ? Better have planes like this, then dont have them.
Relic killing our game, lets save COH2 from Relic 
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Relic delenda est
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Brotheres, what we do in coh2, ehoes in eternity
If you're not a ахіs lover when you're 20, you have no heart. If you're not a soviet fanboy by the time you're 30, you have no brain.
Relic delenda est
If Dane will be have son, he will be call him (Sturmgeschütz)
Brotheres, what we do in coh2, ehoes in eternity
23 Feb 2018, 00:08 AM
#29
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Permanently BannedWith all this changes, game will be empty, coz some players are lame to use counter units or ability.
Relic killing our game, lets save COH2 from Relic
If you're not a ахіs lover when you're 20, you have no heart. If you're not a soviet fanboy by the time you're 30, you have no brain.
Relic delenda est
If Dane will be have son, he will be call him (Sturmgeschütz)
Brotheres, what we do in coh2, ehoes in eternity
If you're not a ахіs lover when you're 20, you have no heart. If you're not a soviet fanboy by the time you're 30, you have no brain.
Relic delenda est
If Dane will be have son, he will be call him (Sturmgeschütz)
Brotheres, what we do in coh2, ehoes in eternity
23 Feb 2018, 08:22 AM
#30
Posts: 563
if plane was made to be controlled like any other unit in the game.
"Pain is almost euphoric sam!"
23 Feb 2018, 08:59 AM
#31
Posts: 587
Adapt to patch and use AA units.
You cried OP about old CAS and now it's "adapt" when il-2 is OP.
Never change vasa.
Being bad at the game isn't something balance patches can fix.
23 Feb 2018, 10:03 AM
#32
Posts: 823 | Subs: 3
You cried OP about old CAS and now it's "adapt" when il-2 is OP.
Never change vasa.
He's right tho. When P47s were super sick, i always brought late game FLAK HT and got it to vet 3-5 easy, didnt even bother to move it out of save cover Kappa
Me: I am scared, that i will need to shake ma head the same as when i read ur posts, so i rather not
Katitof: Its not even close to me even at my worst in the past, imagine ullu, incendiary, aaa, vetlolcake and disto merge into one mega axis zord with forcefield protecting it from accepting any factual data. Add to that a victim card(his rumblings at my PM).
Katitof: Its not even close to me even at my worst in the past, imagine ullu, incendiary, aaa, vetlolcake and disto merge into one mega axis zord with forcefield protecting it from accepting any factual data. Add to that a victim card(his rumblings at my PM).
23 Feb 2018, 12:39 PM
#33
Posts: 17891 | Subs: 8
He's right tho. When P47s were super sick, i always brought late game FLAK HT and got it to vet 3-5 easy, didnt even bother to move it out of save cover Kappa
You are talking about the first Iteration of the ability?
I remember the one where to avoid it you had to press stop and watch almost all missiles miss to the sides.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
23 Feb 2018, 12:55 PM
#34
Posts: 587
He's right tho. When P47s were super sick, i always brought late game FLAK HT and got it to vet 3-5 easy, didnt even bother to move it out of save cover Kappa
So bring back old CAS (commander and ability). Balance by giving both sides bullshit.
Throw in arty cover for good measure, since you can just leave the area.
Being bad at the game isn't something balance patches can fix.
23 Feb 2018, 12:57 PM
#35
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So bring back old CAS (commander and ability). Balance by giving both sides bullshit.
Throw in arty cover for good measure, since you can just leave the area.
I would add first iterastion of Air Superiority for a good measure.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
23 Feb 2018, 13:15 PM
#36
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Permanently Banned
You cried OP about old CAS and now it's "adapt" when il-2 is OP.
Never change vasa.
Old CAS wipe full tanks, taht was the problem, i write about it. Also problem was that soviet before AA patch buff have 0 chance to shoot planes without is-2 or isu-152.
In this path IL-2 cannot wipe full squad. That the different.
I write about it, not cried, its you cry how OP are maxims, make them balanced, and than dont play with maxims, coz unit are perfectly balanced (c). So pls, you hypocrits are in same level like you maxim class play.
You look at problem from one side, i dont see any post from you taht need balance CAS or il-2 early, i dont see post that need change p-47. So pls, you politic of double standart are tupical like in politics.
Also we can back to old times, if you like so tru. Why soviet have only 1 plane, all another have 2. So waht plane are EZ to shoot ? I dont see that you write about it.
I dont see that you write about OKW AA at base.
So ye, Zarok never change with his lies.
Relic killing our game, lets save COH2 from Relic
If you're not a ахіs lover when you're 20, you have no heart. If you're not a soviet fanboy by the time you're 30, you have no brain.
Relic delenda est
If Dane will be have son, he will be call him (Sturmgeschütz)
Brotheres, what we do in coh2, ehoes in eternity
If you're not a ахіs lover when you're 20, you have no heart. If you're not a soviet fanboy by the time you're 30, you have no brain.
Relic delenda est
If Dane will be have son, he will be call him (Sturmgeschütz)
Brotheres, what we do in coh2, ehoes in eternity
23 Feb 2018, 13:19 PM
#37
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Permanently Banned
You are talking about the first Iteration of the ability?
I remember the one where to avoid it you had to press stop and watch almost all missiles miss to the sides.
That change fact that p47 was useless ? Why you mate Zarok dont talk about this problem ? Why you dont insult him liek another users for stupid words ? KappaPride brothership ? Or wait, maybe you support him in idea taht old CAS doc was balanced ?
Relic killing our game, lets save COH2 from Relic
If you're not a ахіs lover when you're 20, you have no heart. If you're not a soviet fanboy by the time you're 30, you have no brain.
Relic delenda est
If Dane will be have son, he will be call him (Sturmgeschütz)
Brotheres, what we do in coh2, ehoes in eternity
If you're not a ахіs lover when you're 20, you have no heart. If you're not a soviet fanboy by the time you're 30, you have no brain.
Relic delenda est
If Dane will be have son, he will be call him (Sturmgeschütz)
Brotheres, what we do in coh2, ehoes in eternity
23 Feb 2018, 13:24 PM
#38
Posts: 17891 | Subs: 8
That change fact that p47 was useless ? Why you mate Zarok dont talk about this problem ? Why you dont insult him liek another users for stupid words ? KappaPride brothership ? Or wait, maybe you support him in idea taht old CAS doc was balanced ?
He is in the inner circle.
I Insult him personally through steam and discord.
Also, we aren't hive mind and have different issues with the game as well as different opinions on some Balance matters.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
23 Feb 2018, 13:28 PM
#39
Posts: 2635 | Subs: 4
Permanently Banned
He is in the inner circle.
I Insult him personally through steam and discord.
Also, we aren't hive mind and have different issues with the game as well as different opinions on some Balance matters.
If you write about balance here and criticizing others, make same here with you friends i dont see different, we all here are same users levels exept mod abuse and people who have more rights here.
Relic killing our game, lets save COH2 from Relic
If you're not a ахіs lover when you're 20, you have no heart. If you're not a soviet fanboy by the time you're 30, you have no brain.
Relic delenda est
If Dane will be have son, he will be call him (Sturmgeschütz)
Brotheres, what we do in coh2, ehoes in eternity
If you're not a ахіs lover when you're 20, you have no heart. If you're not a soviet fanboy by the time you're 30, you have no brain.
Relic delenda est
If Dane will be have son, he will be call him (Sturmgeschütz)
Brotheres, what we do in coh2, ehoes in eternity
23 Feb 2018, 13:38 PM
#40
Posts: 17891 | Subs: 8
If you write about balance here and criticizing others, make same here with you friends i dont see different, we all here are same users levels exept mod abuse and people who have more rights here.
He pointed out a bit of hypocrisy.
I giggled irl and agreed.
I am not talking about p47 because I havent used it for ages and, contrary to 90% of People around here, I do not like to talk about stuff I cant even properly remember or have not used for years(have not played with paratroopers for 2 years I guess).
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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