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stuart and t70 cost vs okw luch and okw puma

28 Aug 2016, 00:50 AM
#21
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Going for an early medium to counter lights doesn't work because you opponent can get an edge using their light vehicle then just call in a medium (lend lease sherman, m10)


If that is so then why people have so much problems with t-70? Are you saying that the only soviet commander that delivers medium callin (lend-lease) is the root of the problem?
aaa
28 Aug 2016, 00:56 AM
#22
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you can clearly see how op and cheap t70 is in this game. T70 (first vehicle) arrived just AFTER P4 and long after 2 axis lights. T70 survived some time even.
28 Aug 2016, 01:00 AM
#23
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jump backJump back to quoted post28 Aug 2016, 00:56 AMaaa


you can clearly see how op and cheap t70 is in this game. T70 (first vehicle) arrived just AFTER P4 and a much time after 2 axis lights. T70 survived some time even.



Dude,

its enough for today.

Your skill level is waaaaay below good, so keep your opinions to yourself

have a nice day
28 Aug 2016, 01:03 AM
#24
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jump backJump back to quoted post28 Aug 2016, 00:46 AMBudwise


lol, credibility, RIP.


"m-muh word counts more than yours!11!"

ok.
28 Aug 2016, 01:05 AM
#25
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jump backJump back to quoted post28 Aug 2016, 01:03 AMzerocoh


"m-muh word counts more than yours!11!"

ok.


Here's your reply
28 Aug 2016, 01:10 AM
#26
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jump backJump back to quoted post28 Aug 2016, 01:03 AMzerocoh


"m-muh word counts more than yours!11!"

ok.


Well, his words are more credible than yours.

Nevermind your skill level is meh...

Volks suck ass. End of story
28 Aug 2016, 01:54 AM
#27
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jump backJump back to quoted post28 Aug 2016, 00:22 AMzerocoh
Luchs is by far the best light tank in the game.

T70 is pure trash
guys I'm done here is the new aaa ally fan boy lvl are off the charts
The fun thing is that I had hope in you
28 Aug 2016, 01:59 AM
#28
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If that is so then why people have so much problems with t-70? Are you saying that the only soviet commander that delivers medium callin (lend-lease) is the root of the problem?


No I was saying that makes the problem worse.
28 Aug 2016, 02:02 AM
#29
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jump backJump back to quoted post28 Aug 2016, 01:03 AMzerocoh


"m-muh word counts more than yours!11!"

ok.
ok here the raw stats 2 stg far 4.8 dps near 16 1 bar far 5 dps near 18 Ned the rifle men still keep 4 carabine while volks 3 so tell me where do you need elite inf
If Soviet penal beat them far and with flamer near
Now tell me how op they are
Maybe just like 2 mg rifle that beat ober wich come at tier 4 and cost more but yea axis op ally for life right ?
Why not make your own site with aaa ?
28 Aug 2016, 04:56 AM
#30
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Gotta love how you guys just talk out of your asses without any proof or examples, and yet completely ignore mine.


ok here the raw stats 2 stg far 4.8 dps near 16 1 bar far 5 dps near 18 Ned the rifle men still keep 4 carabine while volks 3 so tell me where do you need elite inf
If Soviet penal beat them far and with flamer near
Now tell me how op they are
Maybe just like 2 mg rifle that beat ober wich come at tier 4 and cost more but yea axis op ally for life right ?
Why not make your own site with aaa ?


Are you having a stroke dude?



Well, his words are more credible than yours.

Nevermind your skill level is meh...

Volks suck ass. End of story


"m-muh skill!11!" Please, tell me you are trolling, cause nobody can be this retarded...


Now behold, the opnessess of the t70!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqYoe-6-znA&feature=youtu.be&t=12m48s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9esZwwi3qds&feature=youtu.be&t=24m17s

what was relic thinking?!?!
28 Aug 2016, 06:04 AM
#31
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Sista, the guy just literally showed you the numbers based on which your assessment of volks is utter bs.
28 Aug 2016, 06:43 AM
#32
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Sista, the guy just literally showed you the numbers based on which your assessment of volks is utter bs.
let him live in his own dream where axis is op and he is always the underdog who wins vs op unit
28 Aug 2016, 11:32 AM
#33
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jump backJump back to quoted post28 Aug 2016, 00:43 AMzerocoh


to all the naziboos that keep crying about weak faction.

Notice that not even the "OP" mortar and "OP" stuart was enough to stop me. And OKW is my worst faction


"Let me just show you with one example how your data and statistics are wrong..."
28 Aug 2016, 12:12 PM
#34
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"Let me just show you with one example how your data and statistics are wrong..."
well i too could make a replay where i lose as ost vs m 42 and m 3 spam would that make them op ?
28 Aug 2016, 12:19 PM
#35
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jump backJump back to quoted post28 Aug 2016, 00:56 AMaaa


you can clearly see how op and cheap t70 is in this game. T70 (first vehicle) arrived just AFTER P4 and long after 2 axis lights. T70 survived some time even.
well they must have out played really well with only mg cause if you were to rush a p4 it would cost a total of 245 fu and that while building only mg and pioneer a t70 would cost 165/175 fu depending if you go tier 1 or 2 and would still get all the other unit so unless they outplayed you real good and close you in base it would be impossible if they built 2 222
28 Aug 2016, 12:36 PM
#36
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"Let me just show you with one example how your data and statistics are wrong..."


So unupgraded riflemen in the open loose to STG Volks in green cover => proof that you need elite infantry to counter Volks

My opponent is unable to contain my luchs with double AT-guns + Stuart => proof that the luchs is 'by far the best light vehicle in the game'

I win a game even though USF mortar wipes squads and takes out half their health in single shots => proof that USF mortar is UP

Is that it?
28 Aug 2016, 12:39 PM
#37
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So unupgraded riflemen in the open loose to STG Volks in green cover => proof that you need elite infantry to counter Volks

My opponent is unable to contain my luchs with double AT-guns + Stuart => proof that the luchs is 'by far the best light vehicle in the game'

I win a game even though USF mortar wipes squads and takes out half their health in single shots => proof that USF mortar is UP

Is that it?
I'm quite sure I saw a replay where old tiger ace lost ,was it because it was up maybe ? #maketigeracegreatagain
(Before the idiotic fan boy slaughter me it was a joke )
28 Aug 2016, 13:20 PM
#38
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Also consider OKW will bleed more if you go mech opening (no medic) and acces to panzershreck means you have to get 2 spio squads (300mp) because no sweeper vs Soviets is suicide.

In the past rakketen wasnt so important since OKW had shreckblob to fend off enemy armor but since that is removed OKW struggles vs armor, I would trade all the gimmick rakketen features (garrison, cloak, retreat) for a proper AT gun that doesnt can get one shotted by the T70 and its slow aimtime..

I do agree with Miragefla his proposal.



^ pretty much this.

Cant just give straight fuel and MP costs... gotta consider the layout of the factions and the usual trend of matches.
28 Aug 2016, 14:03 PM
#39
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jump backJump back to quoted post28 Aug 2016, 00:46 AMBudwise


lol, credibility, RIP.


Lol so trueeee
28 Aug 2016, 21:14 PM
#40
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Also consider OKW will bleed more if you go mech opening (no medic) and acces to panzershreck means you have to get 2 spio squads (300mp) because no sweeper vs Soviets is suicide.

In the past rakketen wasnt so important since OKW had shreckblob to fend off enemy armor but since that is removed OKW struggles vs armor, I would trade all the gimmick rakketen features (garrison, cloak, retreat) for a proper AT gun that doesnt can get one shotted by the T70 and its slow aimtime..

I do agree with Miragefla his proposal.


I wish we could have a proper anti tank gun
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