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23 Jun 2016, 08:46 AM
#341
avatar of Katitof

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Not denying that :snfPeter:
23 Jun 2016, 08:52 AM
#342
avatar of BeefSurge

Posts: 1890

Do the .50 cal buffs effect fighting positions and tank mounted ones?

With the loss of shrek Volks and mortar addition, fighting pits are actually useful now. (Mortar kills AT gun shooting at pit.)
23 Jun 2016, 08:53 AM
#343
avatar of Carlos Danger

Posts: 362

You want to know what's happening here?

Relic's original OKW design was absolutely terrible and so a few months ago they were persuaded to change it. Unfortunately, Relic has no actual idea how to fix the faction and lacks the money required to do a full overhaul, and so we've been left with a lackadaisical band-aid solution that makes no sense from an actual design perspective. Long story shirt, OKW is a broken faction and, unless Relic/Sega invests serious cash into creating new art assets (uh, don't count on it), will always be.

Meanwhile Relic's patch team is either badly underfunded or completely incompetent or a combination of the two. I mean, I'm glad we're getting patches and at least some support when there could be nothing at all, but Relic's track record for releasing buggy patches is frankly embarrassing.

Other gripe is that the Soviets and Ostheer have basically been forgotten and are now suffering from dated faction designs.
23 Jun 2016, 08:56 AM
#344
avatar of Katitof

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Do the .50 cal buffs effect fighting positions and tank mounted ones?

With the loss of shrek Volks and mortar addition, fighting pits are actually useful now. (Mortar kills AT gun shooting at pit.)

That affects specifically .50 cal HMG unit and nothing else, that is quite clear in the notes.
23 Jun 2016, 10:13 AM
#345
avatar of NEVEC

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jump backJump back to quoted post23 Jun 2016, 08:25 AMBlalord


It was a fail patch, where every Katyusha rocket was like a mini demo charge, that was not good, that was an horrible week :)


So it wasn't bonus damage from unit A against unit B. I agree that was horrible but right now katusha barrage isn't worth to spend it on okw truck, because even at half range katusha have not enough accuracy and 50% of rockets and more just won't hit target.
23 Jun 2016, 10:16 AM
#346
avatar of Blalord

Posts: 742 | Subs: 1

jump backJump back to quoted post23 Jun 2016, 10:13 AMNEVEC


So it wasn't bonus damage from unit A against unit B. I agree that was horrible but right now katusha barrage isn't worth to spend it on okw truck, because even at half range katusha have not enough accuracy and 50% of rockets and more just won't hit target.


Go even closer, like Panzerwerfer before:P
23 Jun 2016, 10:20 AM
#347
avatar of Archont

Posts: 96

Im after few OKW games and it feels really, really awesome.

STGs Volks are very useful in terms of AI.
No more ultimate Volks blob with insta retreat.
Combined arms. You have to keep your light vehicles or raketen close to volks.
Plenty of new strats.

Really good changes.

Indeed mate
23 Jun 2016, 11:26 AM
#348
avatar of Duke of Buk

Posts: 1

You really have to be masochist to play with axis.
23 Jun 2016, 12:28 PM
#349
avatar of NEVEC

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jump backJump back to quoted post23 Jun 2016, 10:16 AMBlalord


Go even closer, like Panzerwerfer before:P


Thats why it was rekt so often by my comets, nah.
23 Jun 2016, 13:49 PM
#350
avatar of $nuffy

Posts: 129

You really have to be masochist to play with axis.


Duke, but we are ! :banana: Guess that's why we're holding' our teeth and secretly enjoyin' the mentality of the latewar germany on the wrong (or right?) end of the spankmachine, while amidst our fetishistic and pleasureable semi-silent suffer, the Allied forum propaganda runs riot, and hustles even more and more buffs for their glorious victor units ! :facepalm:
23 Jun 2016, 13:52 PM
#351
avatar of vietnamabc

Posts: 1061

jump backJump back to quoted post23 Jun 2016, 10:16 AMBlalord


Go even closer, like Panzerwerfer before:P

Sure bro when my Kathy outrun Ambulance.

When will USF Mortar gets fixed, currently it's like old 120mm mortar it wipes like crazy.
Also upgraded Volks can't pick up weapons, is this intentional? Also loves Lefh + Flak HQ, OKW actually got enough MP to use Lefh when they have the chance, but also why it doesn't have 5 vet?
23 Jun 2016, 16:04 PM
#352
avatar of IA3 - HH

Posts: 287

this patch is sh***
23 Jun 2016, 16:09 PM
#353
avatar of Mr.Smith

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Also upgraded Volks can't pick up weapons, is this intentional?


Judging from Miragefla's mod I think this is intentional.

However, I don't see the harm in Volksgrenadiers being able to pick up pilfered weapons; PPSh cons (with broken vet) can do it just fine. Why shouldn't Volks?

Even if an STG Volk squad can pick up a schreck, the weapon-pinata effect will kick in, and they will probably lose it very fast.
23 Jun 2016, 16:16 PM
#354
avatar of austerlitz

Posts: 1705

Only games i win this patch are if usf are not present.If USF present more or less autoloss for axis.
23 Jun 2016, 18:09 PM
#355
avatar of Imagelessbean

Posts: 1585 | Subs: 1

Only games i win this patch are if usf are not present.If USF present more or less autoloss for axis.


Until the mortar bugs are fixed I don't see why you are posting this, we all know.

USF is getting a mortar it should have no earlier than 8 minutes in the game at 0:00.
23 Jun 2016, 18:53 PM
#356
avatar of OZtheWiZARD

Posts: 1439

BTW according to today's hotfix it is intentional Volks can't pick more weapons after upgrading to double StG44.
24 Jun 2016, 10:28 AM
#357
avatar of Xutryn_X7

Posts: 131

The ostheer mortar was ninja nerfed?it barely can hit an mg or even supresed infantry.I couldn't make an ostheer mortar vet3 since this patch
24 Jun 2016, 16:13 PM
#358
avatar of whitesky00

Posts: 468

The ostheer mortar was ninja nerfed?it barely can hit an mg or even supresed infantry.I couldn't make an ostheer mortar vet3 since this patch


Maybe relic messed up and switched OST mortar stats to USF mortar. I feel like that's how USF mortar is supposed to perform. Now you know what USF mortar will feel like in the future :p
24 Jun 2016, 17:59 PM
#359
avatar of mycalliope

Posts: 721

i don't know if whats more broken okw or brits or maybe even usf lelic
25 Jun 2016, 05:59 AM
#360
avatar of PencilBatRation

Posts: 794

M5, Schu, and TM35 should cost 50 munis. They effectively kill vehicles for such a cheapass cost.
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