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Balance Preview Mod

A quick shoutout to "miragefla" for his contribution to these potential balance changes.
DISCLAIMER

Due to the nature of some of the changes outlined below, this balance mod is scheduled to run over multiple weeks in order to extensively test, validate and gather sufficient feedback before any final decisions are made. Therefore, it is important to note that a number of these changes (especially those listed under Experimental) will require extensive validation before being considered candidates for live game integration.

BALANCE GOALS
Increase Strategic Diversity

In order to add to CoH2âs current strategic diversity, the changes outlined below are designed to Increase the depth within factions by improving unit viability, creating diverse options for build orders and bringing factions in line with one another. This will create more diverse and viable strategies for players at a variety of different skill levels.
Match Gameplay Expectations to Outcomes (Quality of Life)

There currently are a variety of gameplay outcomes that do match player expectations which is creating a degree of frustration within the player base. A number of the changes outlined below attempt to address this by matching these outcomes to acceptable expectations such as through the removal of âbadâ RNG and balancing specific units/abilities' cost vs reward that are currently out of tune.
Test Community-Driven (Experimental) Feedback

There are numerous changes below that fit into the category of âExperimentalâ. These changes are fueled by long-time community feedback and requests that more or less would involve dramatic changes to gameplay if implemented. These changes are the least likely to be implemented but rather this mod is meant to be used as a test bed in order to determine if they are viable for the game and if so how well they perform.

GENERAL
Heavy armored Tanks
Strategic Diversity
Developer Comments: We felt the risk associated with flanking a Heavy Armored Vehicle was much too great because of the high rear armor. To help balance this risk vs reward we are reducing rear armor on all heavy armor across the board.

â¢ Soviet IS-2 rear armour reduced from 205 to 160
â¢ Wehrmacht Tiger & Tiger Ace rear armoured reduced from 180 to 140
â¢ Wehrmacht Elefant rear armor reduced from 150 to 110
â¢ OKW Jagdtiger rear armor reduced from 150 to 110
â¢ OKW King Tiger rear armor reduced from 225 to 150

Mines (General-Purpose and Tellers)
Quality of Life
Developer Comments: We often saw mines wipe full health squads when planted in front of building entry points or cripple enemy vehicles. We felt mines were too cost efficient for what they do so we are reducing the damage of some General Purpose mines against infantry so they no longer one shot wipe full health squads as well as removing engine destroy critical from Teller Mines. These changes will bring the reward of an enemy unit hitting a mine in line with the cost of placing it.

â¢ Engine Destroy Critical removed from Teller Mines
â¢ Deals 35% of normal damage against infantry for 70 damage leaving full health models at 10 health. (General-Purpose)
â¢ Deals suppression on squads hit by mines. (General-Purpose)

Suppression
Quality of Life
Developer Comments: We felt it was too easy to charge into suppressive fire and simply throw a grenade to knock out a HMG team. This was not an intended counter and thus suppression will now reduce the range of grenade abilities.

â¢ All grenade abilities that are not snares have their range reduced by 33% when the unit is suppressed.

Anti-Tank Guns (Piats, Bazookas, and Panzerschrecks)
Quality of Life
Developer Comments: To alleviate the effects of some frustrating RNG from anti tank weapons firing on infantry squads, we have decided to reduce the damage these weapons deal to infantry to prevent snipes on full health models.

â¢ Damage set to deal only 25% against infantry.

Snipers
Quality of Life
Developer Comments: We felt Snipers even when caught out of position felt too durable. We also wanted to standardized all sniper rifles to use the maximum amount of time for aim-time and cooldown. These weapons will no longer fire faster the closer the squad approaches them.

â¢ Target size from 1 to 1.15.
â¢ Cooldown, and all aim-time always use the max amount of time and have been standardized for all distances meaning snipers do not fire more quickly the closer the target is.

Deflection Stun Criticals
Quality of Life
Developer Comments: Some heavy armored vehicles had an extremely rare critical that could stun enemy vehicles on deflection. We feel this is frustrating RNG and should be removed from the game.

â¢ Deflection criticals from Heavy Armor removed

Core Infantry/Small Team Weapon Spawn Points
Experimental
Developer Comments: We felt by allowing smaller team weapons and core infantry to spawn from corresponding base buildings, it could slightly speed up initial engagements, and allow for more meaningful base placements for Soviets, Wehrmacht, and OKW factions.

â¢ All Core Infantry Squads and Core Small Weapon Teams now spawn from its corresponding building rather than from Off-Map.

SOVIETS
T-34/76
Strategic Diversity
Developer Comments: We felt the T-34/76 was under performing and needed some improvements to help deal with infantry.

â¢ Hull Machine gun burst duration changed from 2/1 to 2/2.
â¢ Hull Machine gun accuracy increased from 0.3/0.35/0.4 to 0.4/0.45/0.5
â¢ Coaxial Machine gun burst duration changed from 3/2 to 3/3.
â¢ Coaxial Machine gun accuracy increased from 0.28/0.33/0.38 to 0.38/0.43/0.48
â¢ Coaxial Machine gun damage increased from 4 to 8
â¢ Main gun reload from 6.2/6.8 to 6.1.
â¢ Manpower cost from 300 to 280.

SU-85
Strategic Diversity
Developer Comments: We saw that the Soviets had to rely on Doctrines or would have a difficult time dealing with heavy armored vehicles. We wanted slightly improve the SU-85 to be stronger against heavy armored vehicles while being slightly weaker against flanking vehicles.

â¢ Accuracy from 0.05/0.0375/0.25 to 0.055/0.045/0.04
â¢ Penetration from 200/190/180 to 240/230/220
â¢ Reload increased from 3.8/4.2 to 5.4.
â¢ Target size reduced from 22 to 18
â¢ Rotation rate from 20 to 22
â¢ Cost increases from 340 manpower and 120 fuel to 350 manpower and 130 fuel.
â¢ Veterancy two -30% reload modifier replaced with +30% weapon penetration modifier.

IS-2
Strategic Diversity
Developer Comments: Modified to put it in line with other vehicles and slight boost to its penetration to help it better engage heavier armour.

â¢ Scatter offset adjusted to match other vehicles.
â¢ Penetration increased from 250/220/190 to 250/230/210

Trip-Wire Flare Mine
Quality of Life
Developer Comments: Adjusted the mine to prevent one-hit kills at full health. Mainly done to prevent squad wipes of units leaving buildings. Plant time was lowered and the mine now deals damage to compensate.

â¢ Damage from 0 to 20.
â¢ Is now a Small Explosive Weapon type
â¢ No longer guarantees a casualty
â¢ Plant time from 9.5 to 7.5

Soviet Sniper
Quality of Life
Developer Comments: The Soviet Sniper had the lowest health amongst all the Snipers. Because we are increasing the unit size of all Snipers, we have made adjustment to the health the Soviet Sniper to compensate.

â¢ Health increased from 48 to 64

RPG 43 AT Grenade
Quality of Life
Developer Comments: This ability's current wind up time made it feel unresponsive, thus we have reduced it's wind up time alleviate this issue.

â¢ Wind up reduced from 0.25 to 0.125

Penal Battalion
Experimental
Developer Comments: We are trying something a little more radical. Due to the lack of anti-tank in the Special Rifle Command, we want try giving Penal Battalions a more focused roll as a dedicated anti-infantry unit.

â¢ SVT accuracy to .7/.65/.45
â¢ SVT damage from 8 to 10.
â¢ Cooldowns and aim-times adjusted.
â¢ Squad cost increased to 300 manpower from 270 manpower.
â¢ Reinforce time from 4.5 to 5.4. Build time from 27 to 32 seconds.
â¢ Flamethrower Upgrade now adds 3 PPsh-41s to better mesh with the flamethrower.
â¢ Flamethrower cost from 60 to 90 and renamed Assault Package.
â¢ Reduced the drop-rate of the Flamethrower to 10% from 33% due to the PPsH-41s that are added to the squad which are considered slot items.
â¢ "Tripwire Flare" changed to "To The Last Man!" This ability is a passive that increases the power of the squad as they lose members. Modifiers are +4% accuracy, -2% weapon cooldown and -3% received accuracy per member lost.

USF
57mm ATG
Strategic Diversity
Developer Comments: In order to bring the 57mm AT Gun in line with other AT Guns from other factions in the same Tier, we have increased the base penetration to improve performance when not using AP rounds. Take Aim shifted to a timed ability to reflect its power. Accuracy changed to match other anti-tank guns.

â¢ Penetration from 140/125/115 to 150/140/130
â¢ Take Aim! now a timed ability. 20 seconds, 60 second recharge.
â¢ Accuracy changed from 0.05/0.0425/0.03 to 0.055/0.05/0.04

M2HB HMG Team
Strategic Diversity
Developer Comments: Increased penetration to make it a more viable soft counter to light vehicles as well as more distinct from other HMGs due to its later timing. We also wanted to give the lieutenant tier a deterrent against light vehicles without needing to invest in bazookas. Bonus penetration against specific vehicles to ensure the .50cal can harm these vehicles, but not burst down other light vehicles immediately.

â¢ M2HB .50cal HMG penetration from 3/2/1 to 7/6/5.
â¢ New Ability: Armored Piercing Rounds - Timed ability that loads AP rounds for 25% increased damage and +10 pentration.

M36 Jackson
Strategic Diversity
Developer Comments: Increased LOS to allow the M36 to better kite, locate and hunt enemy armor without boosting its firepower any further.

â¢ LOS from 35 to 45.

M8 Motor Carriage
Strategic Diversity
Developer Comments: We felt the M8 HMC was under-performing and needed a slight stat boost to improve survivability and effectiveness. The AOE drop-off for the mid-far range was lessened to improve the M8's damage output against troop targets when its shells do not land directly as the damage drop-off was incredibly harsh given that the mid-range of the shells are set to 2 meters.

â¢ AOE mid modifer from 0.15 to 0.25
â¢ AOE far modifier from 0.05 to 0.10
â¢ Build-time from 80 seconds to 50 seconds.
â¢ Health from 320 to 400.

Major
Strategic Diversity
Developer Comments: We have significantly boosted the artillery ability in power and lowered cost to give USF some form of non-doctrinal artillery to help break concentrations of enemy units and structures. Recharge time increased to compensate and match other artillery units.

â¢ Artillery delay reduced from 7 seconds to 5.5
â¢ Shells increased from 3 to 6.
â¢ Time delay between shells set to 2 for maximum and minimum.
â¢ Veterancy 2 Artillery delay reduced from 7 seconds to 5
â¢ Veterancy 2 Shells increased from 5 to 9
â¢ Veterancy 2 time delay between shells set to 1.75 for maximum and minimum.
â¢ Artillery cost reduced to 60 munitions from 120 munitions.
â¢ Recharge time from 60 seconds to 90.
â¢ Range reduced from 85 to 60.

Captain
Experimental
Developer Comments: The Captain squad gave USF a very easy access to light Anti-Tank and made the Captain the most valuable officer in the game. We want to try removing the Bazookas on the Captain squad to allow for light vehicle play to be more effective.
On Me! no longer provides suppression resistance to prevent negation of MGs or suppression based platforms, but will break suppression making it ideal for getting units out of suppression or beaking pin status.

â¢ Captain no longer comes with free Bazookas. Must either grab them from the weapon rack
â¢ On Me! No longer provides suppression immunity for its duration, but will still break suppression.

60mm Mortar
Experimental
Developer Comments: We wanted to give USF more means to counter garrisons without grenades and a mobile smoke platform as well as diversify their opening.

â¢ Added M1 60mm Mortar to USF Starting Building

WEHRMACHT
251 Flame Half-Track
Strategic Diversity
Developer Comments: We made some slight adjustments to the Flamethrower aim times to allow for the vehicle to be better at kiting, reduced the cost to make it more affordable and in line with its performance. We have also reduced the garrison damage to avoid the vehicle instantly wiping garrisoned squads.

â¢ Upgrade cost reduced from 120 to 90
â¢ Ready aim time from 1.5 to 1
â¢ Flamethrower damage versus garrison from 1.25 to 1.
â¢ Veterancy 3 cooldown bonuses now benefits the Flamethrowers.

Support Armour Korp
Strategic Diversity
Developer Comments: We felt the Support Armour Korp was slightly too expensive in comparison to other faction Tier 3 and needed a slight reduction in terms of cost to make the tier more affordable.

â¢ Price from 260 manpower and 75 fuel to 240 manpower and 60 fuel.

Brummbar
Strategic Diversity
Developer Comments: Due to its clunky movement, the Brummbar would often get blocked against world objects. We decided to give this vehicle Heavy Crush to improve pathfinding and make it more maneuverable. Reload time standardized to make it more consistent and AOE has been adjusted to improve consistency as the damage quickly drops off by 2 meters. To adjust for these changes. resource costs have been updated to bring it in line with its current performance.

â¢ Cost decreased from 470 manpower and 160 fuel to 420 manpower and 150 fuel
â¢ Reload standardized from 7.5/9 seconds to 8.25.
â¢ AOE mid modifer from 0.15 to 0.3
â¢ Medium crush changed to Heavy Crush.
â¢ Veterancy requirements from 2740/5480/10960 to 2040/4080/8160

Heavy Panzer Korp
Strategic Diversity
Developer Comments: We felt the Heavy Panzer Korp was slightly too expensive given the price of the high cost units it currently houses.

â¢ Cost reduced from 260 manpower and 75 fuel to 200 manpower and 50 fuel.

Panzer IV Command Tank
Quality of Life
Developer Comments: The Panzer IV Command Tank was much too durable because it benefitted from its own aura. To make it more vulnerable, the tank will no longer receive a defense buff from its aura.

â¢ No longer receives benefits from its own aura.

Pioneers
Experimental
Developer Comments: Even though the Wehrmacht can build a trench, this is not as flexible as other forms of heavy cover such as sandbags. To increase the faction's heavy cover options, Pioneers have now been given the ability to build sandbags.

â¢ Can now construct sandbags.

OKW
Battlegroup Headquarters
Strategic Diversity || Experimental
Developer Comments: This change was driven from a popular idea that was expressed by the community. Battlegroup HQ no longer comes with Medics but must upgrade to get them. Due to OKW now having full resource income and to bring this ability in line with other factions, this upgrade costs a small amount of fuel.

â¢ Medics must now be purchased as an upgrade. 100 manpower 15 Fuel.

Mechanized Headquarters
Strategic Diversity || Experimental
Developer Comments: This change was driven from a popular idea that was expressed by the community. Mechanized HQ no longer comes with Repair Pioneers but must upgrade to get them. Due to OKW now having full resource income and to bring this ability in line with other factions, this upgrade costs a small amount of fuel.

â¢ Repair Pioneers must now be purchased as an upgrade. 100 Manpower 15 Fuel.

Volksgrenadier
Strategic Diversity || Experimental
Developer Comments: This change was driven from a popular idea that was expressed by the community. In an attempt to break up the Volksgrenadier blobbing we are removing the Panzershrek upgrade. This has been replaced by a package that improves their AI at short-mid range whilst still maintaining some anti-tank to deal with armour that rushes behind ATGs or other units. While the upgrade is not that powerful to start off with, they do gain considerable power as the Volks gain veterancy which has many offensive boosts.

â¢ Panzershrek Package removed.
â¢ Added StG 44 Package. Grants the squad two StG 44s that improve short-mid range combat for 60 munitions.
â¢ Panzerfaust ability added which is unlocked after a truck is built. (Panzerfaust works just like the Grenadier Panzerfaust)

MG34 HMG Team
Strategic Diversity || Experimental
Developer Comments: This change was driven from a popular idea that was expressed by the community. Community has voiced their opinion that they feel the OKW needs a suppression platform to deal with enemy blobs but also to have additional options other than always blobbing more Volksgrenadiers. To address this we have raised the MG 34s accuracy to improve its damage output against targets at range and reduced its cooldown to improve damage output at engaging multiple targets. MG-34s are now standard in the OKW arsenal. The doctrinal call-in has been replaced by the more powerful MG42.

â¢ Mid accuracy from 0.41 to 0.5
â¢ Far accuracy from 0.14 to 0.28
â¢ Cooldown from 2.5/3 to 1.75/2.5
â¢ Available in the H.Q but requires a Battle Group H.Q or Mechanized H.Q.

MG 42 HMG Team
Strategic Diversity || Experimental
Developer Comments: Replaces the MG 34 in the Doctrine

â¢ MG 42 replaces the MG 34 dispatch

BRITISH FORCES
Starting Resources
Strategic Diversity
Developer Comments: The British early game can often be very difficult due to the high cost of their Infantry. We increased the starting manpower to match other factions and to somewhat compensate their early game for their high manpower cost per unit.

â¢ Starting manpower increased from 290 to 340

Universal Carrier
Strategic Diversity
Developer Comments: We felt the Universal Carrier wasn't a viable option and felt we needed to make some adjustments. We gave it self-repair on stock so it no longer requires an engineer to be repaired, made it more durable through an upgrade purchase, and made significant improvements to the Vickers K.

â¢ Cost increased from 210MP to 260 MP
â¢ Vickers K range from 35 to 40.
â¢ Cooldown from 1.5/2.0 to 1.25/1.5
â¢ Burst duration and rate of fire standardized to 1 at all ranges for Vickers K.
â¢ Health improved by 40 when upgraded with Vickers K or Flame Projector.
â¢ Has Self-Repair stock.

Counter Battery
Strategic Diversity || Quality of Life
Developer Comments: We felt the Counter Battery's cost vs reward was not well balanced and required tuning to bring it in line with other similar artillery options. We also want players to make decisive gameplay decisions where using this ability had virtually no risk associated with it.

â¢ Is now a timed ability. Lasts 45 seconds and recharge time is 90 seconds.
â¢ costs 30 munitions

Land Mattress
Strategic Diversity || Quality of Life
Developer Comments: Based off it's effectiveness, we felt this unit could be called in too early. To help bring it in line with other Doctrine artillery we have increased it's required CP.

â¢ Increase CP requirement from 5 to 8

Sexton
Strategic Diversity
Developer Comments: We feel the Sexton is one of the UKF's most under performing units. Therefore, to improve the Sexton's performance we have increased the unit's AOE damage, increased the number of shells it fires, and made it fire a little faster.

â¢ AOE distance damage changed from 1/0.15/0.05 to 1/0.25/0.1
â¢ Wind Down from 4.67 to 3.125
â¢ Number of shells for barrage increased from 5 to 8

Firefly
Strategic Diversity
Developer Comments: We felt the reload on the main gun was hurting the unit's performance and the Tulip Rocket ability's role was redundant with the tank's main gun. To compensate for this we have reduced the reload time on the main gun and changed the role of the Tulip Rocket to be a temporary snare.

â¢ Reload from 10 seconds to 8.
â¢ Tulip Rockets now deal 120 damage from 240.
â¢ Tulips now cause a blind critical on penetration and stuns the tank for 2.5 seconds. (Vehicle LOS reduced to 0 for 8 seconds)
â¢ Tulip Rocket ability cost from 100 to 80.
â¢ Tulip Recharge time from 120 to 80.

Infantry Section (Both variants)
Quality of Life
Developer Comments: Due to the extremely short range of Artillery flares, a unit often put themselves at high risk when trying to use this ability. To bring its cost vs reward more in tune, we have added a slight increase to the range of this ability so it can be used slightly further away from the intended target. Infantry Sections also accrued Veterancy faster than any other core infantry unit so we have slightly increased the Veterancy requirements for these units.

â¢ Artillery flare range increased from 20 to 35
â¢ Veterancy requirements from 480/960/1920 to 560/1120/2240.

Tank Hunter Infantry Section
Quality of Life
Developer Comments: The damage from the HEAT Grenade was under performing and we wanted to bring it in line with all other infantry anti-tank abilities.

â¢ Heat Grenade damage from 50 to 100.

Sniper
Quality of Life
Developer Comments: Due to the short range of Artillery flares, a unit often put themselves at high risk when trying to use this ability. To bring its cost vs reward more in tune, we have added a slight increase to the range of this ability so it can be used slightly further away from the intended target.

â¢ Artillery flare range increased from 30 to 45.

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Too bad they didn't add the latest changes miragefla added to his mod.

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28 Apr 2016, 19:43 PMG4bb4_G4nd4lf

Too bad they didn't add the latest changes miragefla added to his mod.

Due to the nature of some of the changes outlined below, this balance mod is scheduled to run over multiple weeks in order to extensively test, validate and gather sufficient feedback before any final decisions are made. Therefore, it is important to note that a number of these changes (especially those listed under Experimental) will require extensive validation before being considered candidates for live game integration.

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Those notes were released long time ago. Including repost on this forum. Why is this topic here?

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28 Apr 2016, 19:47 PMnigo

Soooo... they didn't add his latest changes. Why u copy dat text?

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28 Apr 2016, 19:49 PMaaa

usfThose notes were released long time ago. Including repost on this forum. Why is this topic here?

This is the first time I've seen the developer commentary attached to them, personally.

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I don't know what are the newest Miragefla's changes but I sure do hope every underperforming unit like M-42, Greyhound, Valentine, Brit howies or KV-1 will be looked at. The infinite metas of fully balanced game

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I lost the twich:
When Roadmap and WarSpoils beta?

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28 Apr 2016, 19:49 PMG4bb4_G4nd4lf

Soooo... they didn't add his latest changes. Why u copy dat text?

They have time to add more changes to the mod.

Test Community-Driven (Experimental) Feedback

There are numerous changes below that fit into the category of “Experimental”. These changes are fueled by long-time community feedback and requests that more or less would involve dramatic changes to gameplay if implemented. These changes are the least likely to be implemented but rather this mod is meant to be used as a test bed in order to determine if they are viable for the game and if so how well they perform.

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Permanently Banned

No changes for vet1 soviet tanks ? Relic pls cap the points with is-2

Relic killing our game, lets save COH2 from Relic

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overall, not bad.

Still would like to see something done about the BOFORS hard-countering its hard-counter (barrage vs. AT gun). Would also like to see a fix to OKW's FLAK (just make its crew invulnerable) so it's not the most pointless unit in the game.

Also, in general, the game really needs to get away from "blob to win" being so viable. Something like CoH1 Pio's "negative zeal", but instead just increases suppression taken, applied to all infantry.

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28 Apr 2016, 20:10 PMDoomlord52

Something like CoH1 Pio's "negative zeal", but instead just increases suppression taken, applied to all infantry.

That's already implemented. The more models stick together the more suppression they take.

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28 Apr 2016, 20:24 PMG4bb4_G4nd4lf

That's already implemented. The more models stick together the more suppression they take.

Huh. Doesn't seem to work too well, then. You can still run a rifle blob into an MG42 and do a ton of damage and/or get past it (even without smoke). This is especially bad with vet 3 rifles (or really vet 3 anything).

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28 Apr 2016, 19:35 PMcapiqua

SOVIETS

SU-85
Strategic Diversity
Developer Comments: We saw that the Soviets had to rely on Doctrines or would have a difficult time dealing with heavy armored vehicles. We wanted slightly improve the SU-85 to be stronger against heavy armored vehicles while being slightly weaker against flanking vehicles.

• Accuracy from 0.05/0.0375/0.25 to 0.055/0.045/0.04
• Penetration from 200/190/180 to 240/230/220
• Reload increased from 3.8/4.2 to 5.4.
• Target size reduced from 22 to 18
• Rotation rate from 20 to 22
• Cost increases from 340 manpower and 120 fuel to 350 manpower and 130 fuel.
• Veterancy two -30% reload modifier replaced with +30% weapon penetration modifier.

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28 Apr 2016, 20:30 PMDoomlord52

Huh. Doesn't seem to work too well, then. You can still run a rifle blob into an MG42 and do a ton of damage and/or get past it (even without smoke). This is especially bad with vet 3 rifles (or really vet 3 anything).

You expect a 260mp unit to completely negate 280mp + 280mp + 280mp + upgrades + vet3 units?

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28 Apr 2016, 20:41 PMElSlayer

Yeah i noticed this too. Still I'm dissapointed that they doesn't take underperformed units like M-42 or KV-1 etc

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There are numerous changes below that fit into the category of “Experimental”. These changes are fueled by long-time community feedback and requests that more or less would involve dramatic changes to gameplay if implemented. These changes are the least likely to be implemented but rather this mod is meant to be used as a test bed in order to determine if they are viable for the game and if so how well they perform.

Don't like it. I hope Relic will be more confident and make this "dramatic changes" live. (Yes, i want to see SuperPenals and upgrades for OKW).
P.S. Pioneers can now construct sandbags. - Experimental (can broke game, too dramatic change

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At least they tried to give some sort of reasoning for this. "We felt"... How many times did it say that? 11 (12 if you count "We feel").

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28 Apr 2016, 20:51 PMKronosaur0s

You expect a 260mp unit to completely negate 280mp + 280mp + 280mp + upgrades + vet3 units?

If you have such a numerical advantage, why not flank? MGs are supposed to do exactly that: rek blobs.

Someone who is outnumbering an MG 3:1, yet is simply too lazy to position his troops properly needs to get rekt even by one MG.

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+1
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我晋升你为上士
245
180
.576
-1
9.
makke
473
200
.703
+21
10.
[NS] YGNOW
1816
532
.773
+2

                    

                        1.
godjaemin
341
154
.689
+3
2.
MoronPark_噗露露特
341
169
.669
+4
3.
死者为大
325
121
.729
+5
4.
龙年♂dark吉
204
186
.523
+1
5.
什锦豆腐
280
265
.514
+1
6.
索🐎里海盗
282
165
.631
+1
7.
Shrimp
229
120
.656
-3
8.
white pigs delete the game
922
387
.704
+4
9.
SoE-Sturmpanther
805
223
.783
+17
10.
Stresemann
1225
955
.562
+8

                    

                        1.
Barbarossa
1337
628
.680
+5
2.
[-✰-81]-Cc
505
224
.693
+6
3.
Caosak
714
389
.647
+12
4.
渣渣,反了他，偶不艹了你爸，气死偶嘞!!!
2447
903
.730
-1
5.
vonLewinski
482
191
.716
+24
6.
Ruby
338
180
.653
+9
7.
我选择死亡.jpg
886
553
.616
-1
8.
Makros
745
493
.602
+12
9.
Sorrow
538
316
.630
+9
10.
Clororaa
514
263
.662
+2

                    

                        1.
DIRTY_FINISHER
2701
1416
.656
-2
2.
TRI1091
245
121
.669
+6
3.
Barbarossa
141
70
.668
+4
4.
L o r d ☨
407
252
.618
+6
5.
Thien
277
110
.716
+9
6.
André
339
161
.678
+3
7.
TheMeowGamer
152
79
.658
+5
8.
gardening lelic
1228
760
.618
+7
9.
Flap
401
247
.619
+1
10.
HHM
80
32
.714
-1

                    

                        1.
.
663
346
.657
+1
2.
makke
423
212
.666
+3
3.
P1cosola
206
87
.703
+2
4.
Molly
79
25
.760
+5
5.
CoHonoid
1667
1083
.606
+5
6.
Riiiiina
327
155
.678
+2
7.
White8===D
320
259
.553
-1
8.
★Osas
164
83
.664
+2
9.
✠[69th] H.Hans Panzer Division
359
192
.652
+2
10.
ISTHISREALLIFE
142
95
.599
+3

                    

                        1.
micmillan2
75
50
.600
+4
2.
Misaki
239
116
.673
+1
3.
昂撒猪猪拳
389
309
.557
+2
4.
ephrine
532
495
.518
+1
5.
m249
710
773
.479
-6
6.
BATTLEDANNY1
411
287
.589
-2
7.
moma23
236
233
.503
-7
8.
RCX
303
207
.594
-1
9.
Riiiiina
514
390
.569
+1
10.
我晋升你为上士
336
313
.518
+2

                    

                        1.
✠ Kaiser Friedrich ✠
595
333
.641
+14
2.
洛林堡联盟火枪手
399
251
.614
+3
3.
vonLewinski
601
195
.755
+4
4.
Caosak
347
190
.646
+10
5.
Sorrow
416
274
.603
+3
6.
Barbarossa
391
265
.596
+4
7.
康师傅冰红茶
853
696
.551
+1
8.
红色卫兵
102
50
.671
+6
9.
So_Love_PennY
1265
713
.640
+11
10.
micmillan2
360
237
.603
+7

                    

                        1.
DIRTY_FINISHER
1366
614
.690
+2
2.
André
610
233
.724
+1
3.
✠ Kaiser Friedrich ✠
1493
1055
.586
-1
4.
REDFORCE
1046
388
.729
+2
5.
-AL-Nimahfrosch
931
516
.643
+2
6.
Daskter
163
68
.706
+2
7.
-クラナド-
220
74
.748
+8
8.
L o r d ☨
1024
639
.616
+14
9.
WubTF
152
47
.764
+7
10.
ikab
410
215
.656
+4

                    

                        1.
.
682
301
.694
+2
2.
Oorah!
383
162
.703
-1
3.
Safety First
414
132
.758
+8
4.
Kilder
627
264
.704
+7
5.
[NS] YGNOW
1919
520
.787
+1
6.
Yox
303
127
.705
-1
7.
Riiiiina
291
102
.740
+28
8.
洪
407
229
.640
-1
9.
★Osas
592
277
.681
+1
10.
DesTo
475
262
.645
+2

                    

                        1.
godjaemin
645
257
.715
+2
2.
昂撒猪猪拳
1620
791
.672
+6
3.
洛林堡联盟火枪手
622
204
.753
+3
4.
MoronPark_噗露露特
327
152
.683
+5
5.
Safety First
3196
1218
.724
-1
6.
76561198049268085
1147
545
.678
+7
7.
BATTLEDANNY1
804
408
.663
-1
8.
cipeX
539
315
.631
+4
9.
Shrimp
601
290
.675
+5
10.
BroWzserr
236
148
.615
+3

                    

                        1.
渣渣,反了他，偶不艹了你爸，气死偶嘞!!!
841
331
.718
+7
2.
Sorrow
381
200
.656
+7
3.
SKELETRON
1869
662
.738
+3
4.
vonLewinski
313
140
.691
-1
5.
Barbarossa
409
181
.693
+2
6.
Ruby
300
159
.654
+1
7.
night_raven0203
3417
1721
.665
-2
8.
Makros
402
232
.634
+5
9.
Happycat
283
116
.709
+7
10.
我选择死亡.jpg
710
502
.586
+2

                    

                        1.
DIRTY_FINISHER
2482
1403
.639
+1
2.
TRI1091
385
155
.713
-2
3.
William H. Harrison
443
189
.701
+10
4.
godjaemin
155
60
.721
+1
5.
~SOK-Vanguard of Iron Cross~
307
211
.593
+1
6.
铁甲小兔
193
113
.631
-1
7.
ikab
279
146
.656
+8
8.
L o r d ☨
218
108
.669
+11
9.
-クラナド-
137
47
.745
+8
10.
☞ ps3YES ☜
566
272
.675
-2

                    

                        1.
Yox
288
162
.640
+6
2.
Riiiiina
433
160
.730
+2
3.
[KOR] SFC.LEE
2337
772
.752
+2
4.
Last_nice
185
74
.714
+2
5.
125656923
239
172
.582
+3
6.
PREDATOR54
824
638
.564
+5
7.
Lazy Ren
151
74
.671
-1
8.
Santer
76
21
.784
+5
9.
.
72
22
.766
+3
10.
youngmen
156
91
.632
-2

                    

                        1.
godjaemin
247
199
.554
-2
2.
东云谅子防卫圈
738
662
.527
+1
3.
昂撒猪猪拳
921
785
.540
-1
4.
Blanco
150
129
.538
+2
5.
Shrimp
138
58
.704
+5
6.
BATTLEDANNY1
419
288
.593
-8
7.
Takiback
469
399
.540
+1
8.
THRILLHO
1118
1198
.483
+3
9.
周末不日常
865
802
.519
-1
10.
ざぁこ♡~ざぁこ♡~
405
303
.572
+2

                    

                        1.
Valentine
555
227
.710
+11
2.
MoronPark_Im the Cat-YE
282
42
.870
+2
3.
Krakenn
963
562
.631
+18
4.
vonLewinski
275
110
.714
+13
5.
Clororaa
249
134
.650
+2
6.
Sorrow
258
143
.643
+2
7.
micmillan2
249
150
.624
+10
8.
elpern
192
65
.747
+5
9.
T.R. E.K.
141
38
.788
+16
10.
Barbarossa
188
78
.707
+2

                    

                        1.
DIRTY_FINISHER
1547
880
.637
-1
2.
M U N O
463
229
.669
+2
3.
Amanda(짱깨가해킹해서친
1784
807
.689
+3
4.
sweetchino
388
210
.649
+10
5.
☞ ps3YES ☜
1871
1030
.645
-1
6.
PERVITIN
153
86
.640
+4
7.
TRI1091
126
40
.759
+2
8.
L o r d ☨
282
147
.657
+2
9.
-クラナド-
149
49
.753
+1
10.
CrossFire- JellyBelly
857
263
.765
+3

                    

                        1.
Stalker111PL
1055
436
.708
+4
2.
.
636
250
.718
+5
3.
Shifty
155
91
.630
+1
4.
Riiiiina
313
127
.711
+1
5.
★Osas
334
146
.696
+8
6.
SoE-Sturmpanther
350
56
.862
+15
7.
JOE
719
436
.623
+4
8.
Sir Culito
121
54
.691
+1
9.
Califax
340
147
.698
+2
10.
✠[69th] H.Hans Panzer Division
68
29
.701
+1

                    

                        1.
godjaemin
431
291
.597
+2
2.
无敌皇子
480
354
.576
+4
3.
死者为大
368
179
.673
+3
4.
东云谅子防卫圈
431
340
.559
-5
5.
Umpalumpa
2051
1864
.524
+3
6.
洛林堡联盟火枪手
201
144
.583
+3
7.
BATTLEDANNY1
339
257
.569
-2
8.
索🐎里海盗
303
202
.600
-2
9.
ざぁこ♡~ざぁこ♡~
468
371
.558
+4
10.
Xi Jinping
966
671
.590
+1

                    

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