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Dushkas Overperforming

23 Jan 2016, 11:55 AM
#1
avatar of Thunderhun

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As for the current meta Lend-Lease is a viable option for soviets which provides several call-ins, among them the dushka can be found.

Now the problem is with this MG is the amount of suppression and damage it can deal. 1 or 2 burst are enough to stop infantry and thanks to its magnificent 6 men crew and quick set-up time it can easly fend off assaults and flanks alike for a very good price. This is a huuuuuuge problem for OKW to deal with as these beasts deny every infantry movement as the faction lacks solid counters.

Either keep the damage output, or lower the suppression.
23 Jan 2016, 11:58 AM
#3
avatar of Burts

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It's damage is the same as MG-42 (somewhat better) suppresion is basically the same as a maxim.

Most expensive mg in the game for 300mp...
23 Jan 2016, 11:59 AM
#4
avatar of Thunderhun

Posts: 1617

Maybe for once provide a valid arguement before posting. I'm sure that you have better knowledge of game than me that allows you to troll.

Untill that, pls stay off this thread.

@Burts, it might be the same, but it does not in the game. It feels far better than the maxim's.
23 Jan 2016, 12:00 PM
#5
avatar of Calm Water

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Uhhm, you know thats the 12,7 hmg, right? And its only in 2 doctrines?
23 Jan 2016, 12:02 PM
#6
avatar of Thunderhun

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Uhhm, you know thats the 12,7 hmg, right? And its only in 2 doctrines?


Defense Doctrine is shit, but Lend-Lease is viable.
23 Jan 2016, 12:02 PM
#7
avatar of Katitof

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Maybe for once provide a valid arguement before posting. I'm sure that you have better knowledge of game than me that allows you to troll.

Untill that, pls stay off this thread.


2 non meta doctrines, one is terrible.

Most expensive HMG in the game.

It might be a shocker, but OKW is not supposed to YOLO frontally all allied HMGs, despite the fact that they can do it against 3 out of 4 of them.

Happy now?
23 Jan 2016, 12:05 PM
#8
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23 Jan 2016, 12:13 PM
#9
avatar of Calm Water

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Defense Doctrine is shit, but Lend-Lease is viable.
Ok, now we have only 1 decent doctrine with expensive MG, and its aviable on 2 CP. And its still 12,7 mm, so dshk should be powerfull.(Pretty easylly counteret by ostheer rifle grenades btw)
23 Jan 2016, 12:14 PM
#10
avatar of Jewdo

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It sets up too fast so that one can counter a flank. Better timing or unison with flank should work.
23 Jan 2016, 12:16 PM
#11
avatar of bert69

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Are we forgetting the fact that if you do manage to flank its basically dead because of the same recrew bug that the maxim has and also that its pack up time is slow as hell? There's nothing wrong with the dshk, in fact the maxim is the one that needs a fix
23 Jan 2016, 12:18 PM
#12
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jump backJump back to quoted post23 Jan 2016, 12:02 PMKatitof


2 non meta doctrines, one is terrible.

Most expensive HMG in the game.

It might be a shocker, but OKW is not supposed to YOLO frontally all allied HMGs, despite the fact that they can do it against 3 out of 4 of them.

Happy now?


Well, Lend-Lease is common doctrine for soviets, faced it like 3-5 times this week (out of my 10 axis games). It allows them to skip tiers and spam medium tanks with a very good HMG.

240-260-300...doesnt make a difference, but the low reinforcement cost makes up for it.

It might be a shocker, but when you try to YOLO flank the HMG and it just repositions in a split second then insta suppresses your guys before even they can throw a grenade.
23 Jan 2016, 12:32 PM
#13
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jump backJump back to quoted post23 Jan 2016, 12:02 PMKatitof


2 non meta doctrines, one is terrible.

Lend lease is non meta? Either you are the greatest troll of coh2 or you didnt play the game since 2 month.
23 Jan 2016, 12:32 PM
#14
avatar of Australian Magic

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And those OP at rounds :foreveralone:

It's fine.
23 Jan 2016, 13:32 PM
#16
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Dhsk should have its reinforcement cost increased and inline with other HMGs other than is in rather good place...
23 Jan 2016, 14:25 PM
#17
avatar of pugzii

Posts: 513

maybe we should add Hungarian troops to OKW, they would deal with it Kappa
23 Jan 2016, 16:42 PM
#18
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jump backJump back to quoted post23 Jan 2016, 12:02 PMKatitof


2 non meta doctrines, one is terrible.

Most expensive HMG in the game.

It might be a shocker, but OKW is not supposed to YOLO frontally all allied HMGs, despite the fact that they can do it against 3 out of 4 of them.

Happy now?


You mean the normal OKW strat doesn't work on this obscure, late-arriving and expensive HMG? hmmmmmm how...odd
23 Jan 2016, 17:02 PM
#19
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I'm not seeing where the DShK's stats are overperforming for its cost.
23 Jan 2016, 17:48 PM
#20
avatar of skyshark

Posts: 239

i know realism isn't really a thing in COH2, but the DSHK and M2 HB are .50 cal (or 12.7mm for you euro types) MGs... they SHOULD be doing excellent damage with good suppression and penetration.

and OP, no offense, but they definitely don't overperform. you're the first person i've seen complain about them. when I play lend lease it's more frustrating that they do so little damage compared to their real world equivalent.
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