new AEC is overpowered
15 Jan 2016, 08:57 AM
#21
Posts: 230
Permanently BannedAs if grens weren't getting shit on enough. Aoe to 2.0, buff 222.
15 Jan 2016, 09:05 AM
#22
Posts: 680
15 Jan 2016, 09:19 AM
#23
Posts: 2396 | Subs: 1
Can we at least wait more then 7 hours before saying if its op or not...?
Not as if you did the same way when an Axis unit received a buff....
On topic:
We have to analyze hte performance of new AEC and take into account the fact that: you pay for upgrade (meaning also no bofors) and you also pay for the unit....
BeefSurge wrote:
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
15 Jan 2016, 09:25 AM
#24
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Not as if you did the same way when an Axis unit received a buff....
Please, tell me you're reffering to OKW "revamp" first days, where only a complete lunatics would say they were "fine" and so they did.
On topic:
We have to analyze hte performance of new AEC and take into account the fact that: you pay for upgrade (meaning also no bofors) and you also pay for the unit....
At least this part you're rational.
UKF side tech is exclusive, you can never have both, so the unit should perform well for the price you pay(which is side tech and tech lock for the other option).
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
15 Jan 2016, 09:28 AM
#25
Posts: 3600 | Subs: 1
At least this part you're rational.
UKF side tech is exclusive, you can never have both, so the unit should perform well for the price you pay(which is side tech and tech lock for the other option).
He is rational because he plays Brit. Would have been Sov or USF buff he would not.
15 Jan 2016, 09:28 AM
#26
Posts: 4630 | Subs: 2
I just tried new AEC. 19min game. 2400dmg vs infantry and 2500dmg vs vehicles.
Not bad.
Seems good but not OP, not sure yet.
Not bad.
Seems good but not OP, not sure yet.
15 Jan 2016, 09:31 AM
#27
Posts: 363
where can i see the patch note??..pls link it here guys
15 Jan 2016, 09:32 AM
#28
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He is rational because he plays Brit. Would have been Sov or USF buff he would not.
Let's be fair, does USF need buffs? Infantry maybe, cause, lol, Riflemen to weak?
And I'm playing actively USF too though not on 1v1. Soviets I didn't touch for a while, I play them too in general, but dislike them.
BeefSurge wrote:
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
15 Jan 2016, 09:33 AM
#29
Posts: 2635 | Subs: 4
Permanently Bannedwhere can i see the patch note??..pls link it here guys
http://www.coh2.org/topic/47844/patch-notes-14th-jan/page/1#post_id474828
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If you're not a ахіs lover when you're 20, you have no heart. If you're not a soviet fanboy by the time you're 30, you have no brain.
Relic delenda est
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15 Jan 2016, 09:34 AM
#30
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tested it out
in 1 game (probably 4v4)
that's how science works, boys
15 Jan 2016, 09:38 AM
#31
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15 Jan 2016, 09:39 AM
#32
Posts: 7
pls nerf
if it can kill axis units it shouldnt be in the game
devs pls revert it to being a useless piece of shit
if it can kill axis units it shouldnt be in the game
devs pls revert it to being a useless piece of shit
15 Jan 2016, 09:40 AM
#33
Posts: 248
UKF are now the most powerful faction in the game.
Please nerf
Please nerf
15 Jan 2016, 09:42 AM
#34
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Let's be fair, does USF need buffs? Infantry maybe, cause, lol, Riflemen to weak?
And I'm playing actively USF too though not on 1v1. Soviets I didn't touch for a while, I play them too in general, but dislike them.
Neither USF nor OKW need any buffs, that doesn't change the facts they both have units that underperform, though OKW have much less of them right now(I can literally think of one).
AEC had no AI at all, now it does, its still clumsy as garden with its turret rotation, which limits its manouverability possibilities to remain effective, but at least its not a waste of resources anymore.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
15 Jan 2016, 10:06 AM
#35
4 Posts: 1006
The aec was crap before, but it should have gotten a range buff instead of a range.
Maybe try something else than OKW Volks spam...
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15 Jan 2016, 10:07 AM
#36
Posts: 322
Give the JagdpanzerIV the same AOE profile as the ISU with HE.
#BradLogic
How about the puma? Which can't resist SVT/Garand, has no AI and is a total waste of resources.
#BradLogic
pls nerf
devs pls revert it to being a useless piece of shit
How about the puma? Which can't resist SVT/Garand, has no AI and is a total waste of resources.
Brummbar is very powerful
15 Jan 2016, 10:09 AM
#37
Posts: 17891 | Subs: 8
Give the JagdpanzerIV the same AOE profile as the ISU with HE.
#BradLogic
The very moment by deciding to build JP4 you will not be able to build P4 and panther anymore.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
15 Jan 2016, 10:48 AM
#38
Posts: 708 | Subs: 1
UKF are now the most powerful faction in the game.
I never thought this day would come again.
15 Jan 2016, 11:41 AM
#39
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Guys,
Yes, the new AEC is a beast, but it is NOT a mini-Cromwell.
I am sorry to say, but you all have it wrong about the AoE:
- The 1-shotting capability of AEC has NOT changed (oneshotting a model; not a squad)
- In the same area that a Cromwell shot would one-shot a model, the AEC will be more likely to deal "minimum" damage (24 damage)
I am not sure yet whether the AEC is OP (because, matchmaking). However, for a unit that costs 440MP (plus teching cost), it had better be useful at something.
Yes, the new AEC is a beast, but it is NOT a mini-Cromwell.
I am sorry to say, but you all have it wrong about the AoE:
The AEC just received a massive buff vs infantry and weapon teams. However, it is not as "bad" as it sounds.
- The AoE distance profile (which determines near/mid/far distances) has NOT been updated
What this means, is that the new AEC will "only" be dealing far-damage to most targets. Vs infantry in the open this damage = 24
Compared to the Cromwell gun:
- AEC deals "only" 75% damage
- AEC fires faster (~4 secs vs ~6 secs)
- Has worse moving accuracy (50% vs 75%)
As always, for best results, use attack ground to plant a shot where it will deal more damage.
What this means:
- The 1-shotting capability of AEC has NOT changed (oneshotting a model; not a squad)
- In the same area that a Cromwell shot would one-shot a model, the AEC will be more likely to deal "minimum" damage (24 damage)
I am not sure yet whether the AEC is OP (because, matchmaking). However, for a unit that costs 440MP (plus teching cost), it had better be useful at something.
You have a great idea that improves the QoL aspects of the game? Please, drop your idea here:
https://www.coh2.org/topic/57860/some-qol-suggestions
Check out Cruzz's DPS calculator:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7gwy65JLbSRMEJ3M2ZPandMMW8/view?usp=sharing
(Download the file, open it with your browser)
https://www.coh2.org/topic/57860/some-qol-suggestions
Check out Cruzz's DPS calculator:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7gwy65JLbSRMEJ3M2ZPandMMW8/view?usp=sharing
(Download the file, open it with your browser)
15 Jan 2016, 11:45 AM
#40
Posts: 589
what patch came out and when? wheres the notes? I haven't been following too closely.
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