Volkspam. So eSports ready. Much smoothness.
IncNade is the biggest BS ever evolved since 2006 vCoh. And shrecks are the icing on the cake.
Panzer Grens had shrecks in coh1 too and incendiary grenades SOMEHOW it worked out.
Enough is enough, fix the volks
15 Dec 2015, 22:32 PM
#41
Posts: 1248
Panzer Grens had shrecks in coh1 too and incendiary grenades SOMEHOW it worked out.
15 Dec 2015, 22:32 PM
#42
Posts: 315
Volkspam. So eSports ready. Much smoothness.
IncNade is the biggest BS ever evolved since 2006 vCoh. And shrecks are the icing on the cake.
Good point. Since USF has no "standard" mines to help counter the blob, using suppression units like the .50 or fighting position is moot with IncNade. One IncNade and they're gone. Unlike a "regular" nade, your unit/position has zero chance of surviving and staying in the fight with a IncNade.
Any flavor of the halftrack has to be micro'd to avoid shrek fire, even when they're suppressed.
15 Dec 2015, 22:34 PM
#43
Posts: 315
Panzer Grens had shrecks in coh1 too and incendiary grenades SOMEHOW it worked out.
MG suppressed them much farther out and no intel bulletins to negate that suppression.
15 Dec 2015, 22:36 PM
#44
Posts: 1248
MG suppressed them much farther out and no intel bulletins to negate that suppression.
I'm sure volks suppression bulletin does not reduce AoE Suppression. It only reduces individual suppression. Individual suppression as in 1 squad charging an MG. AoE suppression as in suppressing a whole group and the AoE goes far and wide. It will even suppress squads out of arc.
I haven't had much of a difficulty facing these blobs yet. I usually get 2 mgs as brits and usf. As sovs I have a con merged shock horde Kappa
16 Dec 2015, 00:10 AM
#45
Posts: 230
Permanently Bannedlol who the fuck uses intel bulletins for reducing suppression
MG suppressed them much farther out and no intel bulletins to negate that suppression.
16 Dec 2015, 00:13 AM
#46
Posts: 253
I have stopped building tanks and vehicles against OKW
Its a waste
Its a waste
16 Dec 2015, 00:16 AM
#47
Posts: 3103 | Subs: 1
I'm sure volks suppression bulletin does not reduce AoE Suppression. It only reduces individual suppression. Individual suppression as in 1 squad charging an MG. AoE suppression as in suppressing a whole group and the AoE goes far and wide. It will even suppress squads out of arc.
Probably, since cover doesn't help against AoE suppression either.
16 Dec 2015, 00:48 AM
#48
Posts: 239
Time to spam suppression and L2Kite
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16 Dec 2015, 00:53 AM
#49
Posts: 315
I'm sure volks suppression bulletin does not reduce AoE Suppression. It only reduces individual suppression. Individual suppression as in 1 squad charging an MG. AoE suppression as in suppressing a whole group and the AoE goes far and wide. It will even suppress squads out of arc.
I haven't had much of a difficulty facing these blobs yet. I usually get 2 mgs as brits and usf. As sovs I have a con merged shock horde Kappa
Would love to see some replays.
16 Dec 2015, 01:37 AM
#50
Posts: 211
Blobs are more likely when...
... team weapons are not accessible enough
... basic infantry is too versatile
Both WFA factions suffer from team weapons not being as accesible as they should in order to encouraged more combined arms play (infantry + team weapons = neat placement game)
In OKW's case, that's because the MG is doctrinal. It should not be doctrinal.
Assuming they'd get the non-doctrinal HMG, it would make even more sense to remove some of the versititly from Volks. I would then be in favor of removing the Schrecks for Panzerfausts, removing the fire grenade for the regular grenade and adding a late-game upgrade of Mp44s.
... team weapons are not accessible enough
... basic infantry is too versatile
Both WFA factions suffer from team weapons not being as accesible as they should in order to encouraged more combined arms play (infantry + team weapons = neat placement game)
In OKW's case, that's because the MG is doctrinal. It should not be doctrinal.
Assuming they'd get the non-doctrinal HMG, it would make even more sense to remove some of the versititly from Volks. I would then be in favor of removing the Schrecks for Panzerfausts, removing the fire grenade for the regular grenade and adding a late-game upgrade of Mp44s.
16 Dec 2015, 02:28 AM
#51
Posts: 1891
Panzer Grens had shrecks in coh1 too and incendiary grenades SOMEHOW it worked out.
Less durable and more expensive Panzgrens, no heavy tanks, no medium tanks, no JP4, lots of side upgrades. No means of defending territory.
If okw turns into PE with 2 infantry units, no medium tank, lots of sideupgrades, and changes to vehicles to encourage offense
The Fascisti Will Pay.
16 Dec 2015, 02:45 AM
#52
Posts: 363
I find volks blobs incredibly easy to deal with Kappa
guess he nvr think about going shock/Rifle BAR/IS with double bren behind cover (late game all terrain is almost yellow)
16 Dec 2015, 04:04 AM
#53
Posts: 824
Heavy volk play with shreks is counterable but also insanely boring, ahistorical, and lame.
Pretty much my thoughts.
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16 Dec 2015, 05:21 AM
#54
Posts: 959
I find volks blobs incredibly easy to deal with Kappa
show me a replay of ur own game when u dealt with a good skilled blob incredibly easy, otherwise stop the bullshit plz kappa
16 Dec 2015, 05:30 AM
#55
Posts: 230
Permanently Banned
show me a replay of ur own game when u dealt with a good skilled blob incredibly easy, otherwise stop the bullshit plz kappa
Skilled blob? When theres a blob there is no skill. You either are good enough to handle it or you're not.
If you can't beat a blob as any faction with demoes, mines, or mgs. You fail.
16 Dec 2015, 05:35 AM
#56
Posts: 959
Skilled blob? When theres a blob there is no skill. You either are good enough to handle it or you're not.
If you can't beat a blob as any faction with demoes, mines, or mgs. You fail.
Better players can do more skilled blobs, it doesn't matter it call it no skill or no brainer, but better players do that more carefully/effectively/harder to counter
16 Dec 2015, 05:38 AM
#57
4 Posts: 474
Skilled blobs is putting units into control groups and moving them all behind heavy cover/split pushing when engaging the enemy. Then focus firing with your 5-10+ squads onto a single target to get a squad wipe and get the ball rolling from there.
Skilled blobs exist and they are hard to counter if a good player knows how to dodge blob counters like pwerfers/katyushas/stukas/calliopes/etc.
Skilled blobs exist and they are hard to counter if a good player knows how to dodge blob counters like pwerfers/katyushas/stukas/calliopes/etc.
16 Dec 2015, 06:10 AM
#58
Posts: 334
"But removing schreks from Volks would make OKW so weak. The raketen is so retarded, Allies would spam light vehicles and wreck poor old OKW"
*Wehrmacht laughs*
But yeah +1. Hopefully this change is included in the next patch. Otherwise I'm done with this game for realz.
*Wehrmacht laughs*
But yeah +1. Hopefully this change is included in the next patch. Otherwise I'm done with this game for realz.
16 Dec 2015, 06:41 AM
#59
Posts: 1930
Panzer Grens had shrecks in coh1 too and incendiary grenades SOMEHOW it worked out.
the average grenade range in coh2 is much longer than the average grenade range in coh1. This include the incendiary grenade for pe and OKW.
16 Dec 2015, 06:56 AM
#60
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Damage from 12 to 10, price to 235 mp.
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