Does anyone else feel that it has just a bit too much survivability for such a cheap unit?
A 210 MP capping unit with the fastest capping speed in the game that can get away pretty easily if not snared and suffers no bleed due to the fact that it's a vehicle. It also has 4.5 armor on all sides for some reason, making it difficult to kill even with an M20.
It's super easy to harass with and hard to defend against as you can poop these out at any stage of the game and send them to cap cutoffs/important points etc. while fighting the enemy army. They are also hard to pin down since they can outrun any infantry unit you may send to counter them, beginning a tedious game of cat and mouse.
New Kubel
11 Dec 2015, 05:31 AM
#1
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11 Dec 2015, 05:39 AM
#2
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Posts: 1276
It deffenetly ties up my units while also dealing damage to them. It caps pretty fast making dealing with OKW in large games kind of a certain hell
11 Dec 2015, 05:49 AM
#3
Posts: 2561
I don't think increased cap speed was a good idea.
11 Dec 2015, 06:00 AM
#4
Posts: 353
4.5 Armor it mean 22% Chance to hit form Rifle smg
someone predict Kubel no fuel = problem it true
someone predict Kubel no fuel = problem it true
11 Dec 2015, 06:36 AM
#5
Posts: 621
reduce armour down to 4.2 or 4.0 and give it a fuel cost
11 Dec 2015, 06:38 AM
#6
Posts: 4928
Yeah Kubel should have at least 5 fuel cost. They added fuel to it for a reason, how soon they forget.
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11 Dec 2015, 06:46 AM
#7
Posts: 708 | Subs: 1
It's not difficult to kill with m20. This thing causes much less troubles than kubel with supression. Unlike new superdupervolksgrenadiersubersoldiers.
11 Dec 2015, 07:20 AM
#8
Posts: 17891 | Subs: 8
Doesn't feel to me like its too durable, it loses badly to RETs in green cover, but will cause trouble if you will try to use it vs inf in the open.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
11 Dec 2015, 07:29 AM
#9
8 Posts: 2470
relic should take a page from dow2 and make the kubel able to decap but not capture. this makes it a very strong harassing unit but doesn't allow it to give map control.
11 Dec 2015, 08:11 AM
#10
Posts: 230
Permanently BannedIt no longer has superior range or suppression. Its combat effectiveness is literally lower in exchange for the ability to cap. Hell if kubels are OP, then I'm sure you thought bikes and jeeps were OP in coh1.
11 Dec 2015, 08:20 AM
#11
Posts: 2819
I don't think increased cap speed was a good idea.
+1
For a fast vehicle that can get out asap, it's already enough to be able to get out fast and decap. It does not need to be faster than others.
All posts made are about situations in 2v2's. Not a 1v1 player.
11 Dec 2015, 08:22 AM
#12
Posts: 289
kubel is fine
sorry if my eng is not very good
11 Dec 2015, 08:53 AM
#13
Posts: 1653
I seriously don't know what to think about the new Kubel. It gives you some insane amount of capping power.
11 Dec 2015, 09:36 AM
#14
4 Posts: 474
Leave my little kubel alone 
It's one of the few units that doesn't need to be adjusted at all right now; fits perfectly fine where it is as a scout/caping vehicle. Just add a 5 fuel cost and that'd be enough.
It's one of the few units that doesn't need to be adjusted at all right now; fits perfectly fine where it is as a scout/caping vehicle. Just add a 5 fuel cost and that'd be enough.
11 Dec 2015, 10:39 AM
#15
Posts: 37
suffers no bleed due to the fact that it's a vehicle
You loose 210MP when its destroyed. And its not an effective combat unit. USF has its troubles against this, but why would you not use rear echelons to defend a cutoff or fuel against it? Build a tank trap --> green cover --> he needs more than just a kubel to harrass.
I do agree that it doesen't need to have a faster capping rate and it would be a great idea to let it only decap territory. This way you would have to think more about when to build it since at the start it would only mean giving up map control.
11 Dec 2015, 11:03 AM
#16
Posts: 2396 | Subs: 1
Nerf kubel! It's OP! 
Now I saw them all.
Now I saw them all.
BeefSurge wrote:
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
11 Dec 2015, 11:10 AM
#17
Posts: 974 | Subs: 2
People will alyways find things to blame on OKW 
whats next? nerf sturm rep speed because it's already the worst ingame compaired with vet? 
whats next? nerf sturm rep speed because it's already the worst ingame compaired with vet?
11 Dec 2015, 11:28 AM
#18
Posts: 17891 | Subs: 8
You loose 210MP when its destroyed.
And gain 5 fuel.
Plus, OKW have no menpower problems at all, which was proven recently.
And its not an effective combat unit. USF has its troubles against this, but why would you not use rear echelons to defend a cutoff or fuel against it? Build a tank trap --> green cover --> he needs more than just a kubel to harrass.
Its not supposed to be effective combat unit.
Its fuel free vehicle, its quite clear that its light support, capper and scout only.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
11 Dec 2015, 13:56 PM
#19
Posts: 2396 | Subs: 1
And gain 5 fuel.
That is not a certainity, it's sometimes in the hands of godess Fortune.
BeefSurge wrote:
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
11 Dec 2015, 14:14 PM
#20
Posts: 225 | Subs: 1
Typical,well-known OKW fanbois defending the Kubel,what a surprise.
Objectivly Kubel is too cheap for what it does and it costs again -5 fuel.
Scavange provides you with even more ammo if you rely on Kubels.
Objectivly Kubel is too cheap for what it does and it costs again -5 fuel.
Scavange provides you with even more ammo if you rely on Kubels.
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