Wehrmacht- A no show
5 Nov 2015, 08:12 AM
#1
Posts: 148
Where is wehrmacht equal to Brits commandos, Russia's Shock Troops, USF's rangers?
5 Nov 2015, 08:14 AM
#2
Posts: 132
Ostruppen.
5 Nov 2015, 08:26 AM
#3
Posts: 1705
I believe there was once upon a time something called stortruppen -can't remember the name correctly.Must have been an illusion.
But you are committing a crime by asking this question.
WEHRMACHT ISN'T SUPPOSED TO HAVE GOOD INFANTRY.They are SUPPORT WEAPON FACTION.Bla bla bla.
Meanwhile british can have great infantry,superb team weapons,great defences,better teching,better flexibility and equal tanks.
They are NOT support unit faction,they deserve superb infantry.
You see the logic of the argument?
But you are committing a crime by asking this question.
WEHRMACHT ISN'T SUPPOSED TO HAVE GOOD INFANTRY.They are SUPPORT WEAPON FACTION.Bla bla bla.
Meanwhile british can have great infantry,superb team weapons,great defences,better teching,better flexibility and equal tanks.
They are NOT support unit faction,they deserve superb infantry.
You see the logic of the argument?
5 Nov 2015, 08:33 AM
#4
Posts: 1003
Where is wehrmacht equal to Brits commandos, Russia's Shock Troops, USF's rangers?
Where is USF equal to wermacht sniper, mortar, AT pak and elephant?
Each side have some disadvantages
I want to have the same chance, to win for each side.
5 Nov 2015, 08:34 AM
#5
Posts: 1705
Where is USF equal to wermacht sniper, mortar, AT pak and elephant?
Each side have some disadvantages
They don't need any of these to have 80% winrate.Not when you have terminator rifle blobs.
5 Nov 2015, 08:36 AM
#6
Posts: 1003
They don't need any of these
This is right answer for iceman.
I want to have the same chance, to win for each side.
5 Nov 2015, 08:38 AM
#7
Posts: 1705
This is right answer for iceman.
Difference is the winrate between usf and ost.If they don't need any of these then stock infantry needs 5 men or big recieved accuracy buffs.
5 Nov 2015, 08:58 AM
#8
Posts: 476
Vet 2 LMG grens, MG42, mortar
Use combined arms, wehrmacht is not designed to blob and abuse elite infantry.
Use combined arms, wehrmacht is not designed to blob and abuse elite infantry.
5 Nov 2015, 09:03 AM
#9
Posts: 17891 | Subs: 8
Where is wehrmacht equal to Brits commandos, Russia's Shock Troops, USF's rangers?
Probably in the same place where you have Brit and USF equivalents to Panzerwerfer, 251 transport and elephant.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
5 Nov 2015, 09:17 AM
#10
Posts: 1705
Vet 2 LMG grens, MG42, mortar
Use combined arms, wehrmacht is not designed to blob and abuse elite infantry.
Oh really why does that apply for wehrmacht but not british?
British can have both superb infantry plus great support weapons..u don't say that to them do you?
Yours is a total bias argument.If wehrmacht shouldn't have good infantry ,nerf british infantry as well.Or nerf british support weapons and emplacements -how come they get to have both?
5 Nov 2015, 09:20 AM
#11
Posts: 158 | Subs: 2
Ive been tearing apart shocks and commandos alike using Pgrens.
5 Nov 2015, 12:19 PM
#12
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Posts: 1276
pgrens are good enough to deal with them. use a volk squad in combo with one. Works pretty well
5 Nov 2015, 12:23 PM
#13
Posts: 1225
Asymetric faction design.
Wehr indeed is currently disadvantaged in being unable to cost-effectively fight infantry battles, and in a number of other respects. Unless you go full tryhard Osttruppen that is, but even that won't do against Rifle Flamers. Also, never employ PGrens in anything but an auxiliary role.
Anyways,
My advice is to do what I do and treat it more as the comedic relief faction it is, I've been trying infantry doctrine and all the other thoroughly non-meta commanders recently, its been a blast.
Wehr indeed is currently disadvantaged in being unable to cost-effectively fight infantry battles, and in a number of other respects. Unless you go full tryhard Osttruppen that is, but even that won't do against Rifle Flamers. Also, never employ PGrens in anything but an auxiliary role.
Anyways,
My advice is to do what I do and treat it more as the comedic relief faction it is, I've been trying infantry doctrine and all the other thoroughly non-meta commanders recently, its been a blast.
5 Nov 2015, 12:26 PM
#14
Posts: 738
Oh really why does that apply for wehrmacht but not british?
British can have both superb infantry plus great support weapons..u don't say that to them do you?
Yours is a total bias argument.If wehrmacht shouldn't have good infantry ,nerf british infantry as well.Or nerf british support weapons and emplacements -how come they get to have both?
Yes great support weapons, like the all powerful mortar pit, sexton, 17pdr and valentine.
The all powerful british commandos that cost 500mp for a squad comparable to ass grens.
I'm sure you would love to go back to the days when Ostruppen outgun 280mp tommies and the game is over in 5 minutes when your scout car rolls out.
5 Nov 2015, 12:34 PM
#15
Posts: 2396 | Subs: 1
Yes great support weapons, like the all powerful mortar pit, sexton, 17pdr and valentine.
The all powerful british commandos that cost 500mp for a squad comparable to ass grens.
I'm sure you would love to go back to the days when Ostruppen outgun 280mp tommies and the game is over in 5 minutes when your scout car rolls out.
So the mortar pit, mobile AT gun, HMG and such are not the best support units in the game, in fact they are bad suport units. Got it.
BeefSurge wrote:
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
5 Nov 2015, 12:36 PM
#16
Posts: 1225
Sry Rollo but that rates among the more inane stuff I've read, even by the standards of this forum.
There are tools to measure dps you know, you're free to compare Commandos and Assgrens. Not to mention facts like being able not only to camo but also being able to move in it, a short fuse highly destructive grenade, demos, and being able to be deployed almost anywhere on the battlefield, granting them much more utility and potential to wipe squads. "Comparable to Assgrens" (sic!). Seriously, what the hell.
There are tools to measure dps you know, you're free to compare Commandos and Assgrens. Not to mention facts like being able not only to camo but also being able to move in it, a short fuse highly destructive grenade, demos, and being able to be deployed almost anywhere on the battlefield, granting them much more utility and potential to wipe squads. "Comparable to Assgrens" (sic!). Seriously, what the hell.
5 Nov 2015, 12:41 PM
#17
Posts: 323
PGrens can be used without schreks you all know that don't you 
No you don't ?
No you don't ?
5 Nov 2015, 12:42 PM
#18
Posts: 1225
PGrens can be used without schreks you all know that don't you
No you don't ?
Yes I do. Hint: For a 340 mp unit, they suck, unless your opponent just for whatever bizarre reason trades shots cover to cover at medium range.
5 Nov 2015, 12:47 PM
#19
Posts: 732
Obers/ Falls, Jeagers. Or do you mean Ostheer? One word: Sniper
Btw: OKW + Ostheer = Wehrmacht
Btw: OKW + Ostheer = Wehrmacht
5 Nov 2015, 12:59 PM
#20
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Posts: 1108
The all powerful british commandos that cost 500mp for a squad comparable to ass grens.
if you are starting to compare ass grens with commandos, you are a fool.
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