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JU-87 AT Strafe Loiter is broken

30 Oct 2015, 16:49 PM
#21
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The Typhoon rockets are broken because they target infantry and are actually more effective vs inf than vs tanks (I wiped 5 blobbed Volk squads the other day with it).

Stuka loiter is plainly overperforming.

P47 strafe is incredibly bad and does not hit anything at all. It will kill infantry around the tank at most.

IL2 is just bad, really bad.
30 Oct 2015, 17:21 PM
#22
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JU87 strafe is still too good, I agree with that.

Typhoons feel about right, scary but not OP. Even though the rockets might kill infantry the primary target is tanks, and it is not as bad about searching out infantry as the JU87's.

P47 is maybe not quite potent enough vs vehicles but this is debatable. Rather see the price slightly reduced than the ability buffed.

IL2 is useless, it needs buffs to be in the right place.
30 Oct 2015, 17:45 PM
#23
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They aleady nerfed it right?

Adjusted would be a correct word.
It can't one shot medium armor, but is now twice as powerful vs infantry and light armor, while being harder to counter due to having 2 planes instead of 1.
30 Oct 2015, 18:01 PM
#24
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30 Oct 2015, 18:12 PM
#25
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It has already been nerfed and it suddenly is going to be OP?
30 Oct 2015, 18:15 PM
#26
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I feel Typhoons, P47 and JU87 are fine as they are but the IL-2 is really underperforming.
30 Oct 2015, 18:21 PM
#27
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As they say when facing allied airstrikes....build AA....
30 Oct 2015, 18:45 PM
#28
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Its 240 munitions last I remember, can someone prove me wrong? Unlike hawker typhoon it has an actual delay when being called in, and as far as I know is more expensive. The ability was just nerfed in terms of its alpha strike damage. I find it hard to believe it is still OP, but I havent used it.


it is 200 munition daspoulos ;)
30 Oct 2015, 19:14 PM
#29
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How many games I find myself in where I'm fighting both British and American airstrikes hmmm. And they are a lot easier to spam than scas.
30 Oct 2015, 19:21 PM
#30
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It really seems powerful. But I dont like close air Support abilitys which counters inf and tank, they should either attack tanks or inf. Im speaking for both sides (Typhoon etc )
30 Oct 2015, 19:24 PM
#31
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How many games I find myself in where I'm fighting both British and American airstrikes hmmm. And they are a lot easier to spam than scas.


not sure how you can judge on that considering the fact that you barely played allies at all
30 Oct 2015, 19:41 PM
#32
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not sure how you can judge on that considering the fact that you barely played allies at all


Check my post, I don't have a bias in the fourms. So yeah games I play, see play. I have a good idea on what I'm talking about.
30 Oct 2015, 19:50 PM
#33
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Permanently Banned


it is 200 munition daspoulos ;)

thank you
30 Oct 2015, 20:37 PM
#34
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Check my post, I don't have a bias in the fourms. So yeah games I play, see play. I have a good idea on what I'm talking about.


the problem is that you cant say that its easier to spam it as allies. you just cant know.
30 Oct 2015, 20:47 PM
#35
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But I do. Thank you.
30 Oct 2015, 21:20 PM
#36
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This is plain broken and need to be nerfed. It is just stupid that it is so strong against infantry and armor. It is a AT srafe and should only do major damdge to tanks. And not to infanry and team weapons.
31 Oct 2015, 03:48 AM
#37
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Posts: 587

The 37mm Stuka strafe used to have bad accuracy and nobody cared about it, until Relic decided to buff its accuracy to make it more useful, and when it started hitting tanks & infantry, it also started wiping them with its 120dmg cannons (Before the accuracy buff, the strafe was a joke, and people preferred to spam the suppression strafe that also wiped Soviet Sniper teams, and back then the IL-2 strafe was OP with its 20dmg per hit, before it got nerfed to the ground)

31 Oct 2015, 03:55 AM
#38
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They aleady nerfed it right?


They changed from 1 plane to 2 and made each do half damage of the previous, but in effect it turned out to not be a big nerf. Depending on where it gets launched, Shermans and Jacksons can have a hard time getting out of the targeting area. It still kills Jacksons, M10's, AA halftracks in one pass.

The M15 AA halftrack used to hard counter the Stuka loiter when it was one plane. When Relic changed the halftrack, it improved the AI performance in a way that it didn't really need, and it nerfed the AA ability. This was especially bad when combined with having 2 planes to shoot down instead of 1. Now it would take at least two AA halftracks and probably three to counter it. I've tried countering it in 1v1's with a single AA halftrack and lost the AA halftrack to the plane a couple of times.
31 Oct 2015, 09:44 AM
#39
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i still think croc in 1v1 as ostheer is pretty damn strong, put 1 or 2 6pdr behind churchill and you got a REAL problem. you cant counter it with at guns nor with vehicles because 6 pdrs are penetraing 9/10 shoots on tiger long range.


That's just plain false, the pen chance is 60%.
31 Oct 2015, 09:45 AM
#40
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jump backJump back to quoted post31 Oct 2015, 09:44 AMMuxsus


That's just plain false, the pen chance is 60%.

was bad random then, sorry for missinformation
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