volks too slow; cant chase shermans.
I suggest volks get jet-packs for 40 muni.
Let's talk about Volksgrenadiers
29 May 2015, 07:24 AM
#121
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Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
29 May 2015, 09:35 AM
#122
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Posts: 172
Add some kind of advancend cover bonus system to all units... it would reduce blobing because units in cover will be more effective. (e.g when in cover 8% more accuracy and 6% rate of fire)
I love this idea! This will make battles much more tactical and steady. Again, great idea
Volks are fine as they are.
I can't actually compete with rifle squads if the US player got serious and attacked mid range in a blob duel. Plus the fact USF has a doctrine for a jeep early game...
Shreks on volks are not for offense, just defense. The description on a bulletin implies that when talking about panzershreks somewhere. I can't actually run up and snipe a Sherman tank with 3-4 volk squads, just scare it off.
And it's nice to deal with clown cars. These things deserve a shrek right up the exhaust pipe.
6 Jun 2015, 11:09 AM
#123
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Posts: 551
I have been saying this for half a year. Remove the damn shreks from volks
6 Jun 2015, 11:27 AM
#124
Posts: 211
I have been saying this for half a year. Remove the damn shreks from volks
What should they have instead in order not to be very, very useless? Panzerfaust maybe. Like in CoH 1. It was a widely-spread thing for late war germans if I am not mistaken. Not sure if a good idea, though... they may not even have voice-lines to fire a Panzerfaust. But they have Grenade voice-lines so maybe AT Grenades like Fusiliers?...
That aside, I disagree with the person who said they should cost more MP. They represent non-elite Grens, they can't cost more then Grens. It's not the design intent that Volks are elite and expensive. They are relatively cheap frontline dudes, and it should stay that way!
6 Jun 2015, 11:48 AM
#125
Posts: 2779
What should they have instead in order not to be very, very useless? Panzerfaust maybe. Like in CoH 1. It was a widely-spread thing for late war germans if I am not mistaken. Not sure if a good idea, though... they may not even have voice-lines to fire a Panzerfaust. But they have Grenade voice-lines so maybe AT Grenades like Fusiliers?...
That aside, I disagree with the person who said they should cost more MP. They represent non-elite Grens, they can't cost more then Grens. It's not the design intent that Volks are elite and expensive. They are relatively cheap frontline dudes, and it should stay that way!
Yeah, Panzerfaust, if they can really one shot T-34 even by kid Volkssturm, why not?
6 Jun 2015, 15:04 PM
#126
Posts: 1617
Yeah, Panzerfaust, if they can really one shot T-34 even by kid Volkssturm, why not?
More like giving it a damaged engine, also on the 23rd NDA NDA...for panzerfaust.
6 Jun 2015, 23:25 PM
#127
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Volks must have a vet limit of max vet 3. Currently volks vet 5 with shreks is too much. Only counter is a lucky squad wipe with arty
7 Jun 2015, 00:25 AM
#128
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Permanently Banned^LOL
There is no recording in all WW2 history of a piat actually knocking off a vehicle. Yes, it was THAT bad.
10 Jun 2015, 10:24 AM
#129
Posts: 270
As you guys know, mp40s are crap in thes game. The best way to improve volks is to fix their shitty accuracy and cooldown.
I'll try again.
The source of my frustrations that should be removed
10 Jun 2015, 10:47 AM
#130
Posts: 17884 | Subs: 8
The best way to improve volks is to fix their shitty accuracy and cooldown.
Its called vet5 system.
Volks never were meant to operate alone, much less being the only troop on field until tanks arrive.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
10 Jun 2015, 12:04 PM
#131
Posts: 2396 | Subs: 1
Volks must have a vet limit of max vet 3. Currently volks vet 5 with shreks is too much. Only counter is a lucky squad wipe with arty
BeefSurge wrote:
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
10 Jun 2015, 12:41 PM
#132
Posts: 186
Frankly quite horrified to see people still whining about OKW when they're neutered to garbage atm
10 Jun 2015, 12:46 PM
#133
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Frankly quite horrified to see people still whining about OKW when they're neutered to garbage atm
That is likely because outside of 1v1 OKW is still uncontested top of the food chain.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
10 Jun 2015, 12:59 PM
#134
Posts: 186
That is likely because outside of 1v1 OKW is still uncontested top of the food chain.
Right. I'd like to hear you apply the same principles in discussing soviets in 1v1
10 Jun 2015, 13:02 PM
#135
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Right. I'd like to hear you apply the same principles in discussing soviets in 1v1
Sure thing.
http://coh2chart.com/
Do it.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
10 Jun 2015, 13:02 PM
#136
Posts: 2396 | Subs: 1
That is likely because outside of 1v1 OKW is still uncontested top of the food chain.
BeefSurge wrote:
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
10 Jun 2015, 13:04 PM
#137
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Permanently Banned
There is no recording in all WW2 history of a piat actually knocking off a vehicle. Yes, it was THAT bad.
10 Jun 2015, 13:07 PM
#138
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Have fun arguing actual, latest data, fanboys 
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
10 Jun 2015, 13:12 PM
#139
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A week. A trickle of sand on a beach. A straw in a haystack. Let's remember it, and give it as example whenever our bias blinds us. For comrade Stalin pays us well ...comrade.
BeefSurge wrote:
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
10 Jun 2015, 13:16 PM
#140
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Permanently BannedA week. A trickle of sand on a beach. A straw in a haystack. Let's remember it, and give it as example whenever our bias blinds us. For comrade Stalin pays us well ...comrade.
If stats were available since launch and included all pplayers ( not just top 200). I guarantee the OKW winrate is probably around 90-95% in 3v3 and 4v4, 80-90 in 2v2, and 70-80 in 1v1. While both allied faction winrate would decrease atleast 20% for every game mode.
There is no recording in all WW2 history of a piat actually knocking off a vehicle. Yes, it was THAT bad.
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