Twice now I have faced IS2s with no armor and raketens and they are awesome! Because of the cloak I am getting them to half health before he even knows whats happening. Yay to slightly more combined arms but now I feel OKW is just infantry tactics till you have enough fuel for 2 tanks then roll over the enemy. At the moment with the speed of firing and cloaking its a pure AT god.
Could OKW now afford a slight increase in price for volks shreks? (I personally hate facing and using blob tactics)
RaketenWerfer 43 op?
8 Apr 2015, 18:59 PM
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8 Apr 2015, 19:03 PM
#2
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That shit is, OP? Wut?
8 Apr 2015, 19:04 PM
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8 Apr 2015, 19:06 PM
#4
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Racketenwerfers have excllent pen, reasonably good RoF and vet up very quickly.
Vet 0 ones are very vulnerable to tanks because of the short range, but vet them up a bit (easier then usual with the retreat capability) and they quickly become brutal. Vet 5 ones utterly wreck face, as usual.
Not as much as they used to when their damage bonus was bugged and they one shot literally anything, though.
Still. Not OP, I'd say, just alarmingly good with vet. And really squishy without.
Vet 0 ones are very vulnerable to tanks because of the short range, but vet them up a bit (easier then usual with the retreat capability) and they quickly become brutal. Vet 5 ones utterly wreck face, as usual.
Not as much as they used to when their damage bonus was bugged and they one shot literally anything, though.
Still. Not OP, I'd say, just alarmingly good with vet. And really squishy without.
8 Apr 2015, 19:07 PM
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the old vet5 raketen was OP, it oneshotted IS2 with his first strike bonus and +10000% damage boost.
But now its finally usable and not OP
But now its finally usable and not OP
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8 Apr 2015, 19:07 PM
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They are finally viable units now.
8 Apr 2015, 19:07 PM
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Strange thread entitled "R43 OP" but appraises it for being useful and calling for a nerf of volk schreck blobs.
I certainly am happy with it; great to see tanks actually piss off at the sight of it.
I certainly am happy with it; great to see tanks actually piss off at the sight of it.
8 Apr 2015, 19:36 PM
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Yea let's reduce both it's crew and damage to half.
8 Apr 2015, 19:42 PM
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lmfao
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8 Apr 2015, 20:09 PM
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Kappa
8 Apr 2015, 20:58 PM
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Twice now I have faced IS2s with no armor and raketens and they are awesome! Because of the cloak I am getting them to half health before he even knows whats happening. Yay to slightly more combined arms but now I feel OKW is just infantry tactics till you have enough fuel for 2 tanks then roll over the enemy. At the moment with the speed of firing and cloaking its a pure AT god.
Could OKW now afford a slight increase in price for volks shreks? (I personally hate facing and using blob tactics)
Mate the entire point of the volks was their vet not their AT. And the raketens are still nowhere as usefull as the pak
8 Apr 2015, 21:23 PM
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Posts: 542
Not op, but they should be good now.
8 Apr 2015, 21:49 PM
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They'll still die instantly once they make a wrong move, but the firing time reductions will make it way easier to do something and not make wrong moves (translated: Retreat once they start going to it after it fires).
8 Apr 2015, 22:13 PM
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OP reads like "Praise the raketenwerfer" Moved to COH2 Gameplay
9 Apr 2015, 02:56 AM
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since people still don't look up pen values...
the only gun on that list with bad pen (ie. significantly different from the others) is the 57mm, which has shit pen.
for reference:
Code
Raketen
200.0/190.0/180.0
Pak
210.0/200.0/190.0
Zis
200.0/190.0/180.0
57mm
140.0/125.0/115.0
the only gun on that list with bad pen (ie. significantly different from the others) is the 57mm, which has shit pen.
for reference:
Code
Panzerschreck
180.0/170.0/160.0
Bazooka
130.0/120.0/110.0
9 Apr 2015, 05:37 AM
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Raketens were always good, but people refused to use them because they aren't PAK-40s
I almost never built obers and I build raketens almost every game; so I was quite happy about the patch. It wasn't a nerf for me
I almost never built obers and I build raketens almost every game; so I was quite happy about the patch. It wasn't a nerf for me
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9 Apr 2015, 05:59 AM
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If you had told me on March 30th that I would be seeing Racketen 43 OP and PTRS OP threads, I would have laughed at you...
Its useful now, a refreshing change as now you dont need to spam volks to have at options.
Its useful now, a refreshing change as now you dont need to spam volks to have at options.
9 Apr 2015, 06:16 AM
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"raketenwerfer Op" he said
BeefSurge wrote:
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
9 Apr 2015, 07:14 AM
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Raketens were always good, but people refused to use them because they aren't PAK-40s
The only reason I don't usually call in raketens is the crew. No cover, they clump up and get insta-wiped
9 Apr 2015, 08:58 AM
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Dont you think its strange that rockets have different penetration values at different ranges, since i dont think rocket penetration cares about distance in real life...but i guess its balance
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