That exists, it's called Wehrmacht.
Yeah, not even close.
Over nerfed Obers
6 Apr 2015, 03:58 AM
#281
Posts: 57
Yeah, not even close.
6 Apr 2015, 04:08 AM
#282
Posts: 4951 | Subs: 1
Yeah, not even close.
The PIV battle group exists in OKW but nobody uses it, I wonder why?
Making OKW be balanced around PIV's and StuG's would be kind of silly, since it would make no sense at the Panther was much more common in late 44 and early 45. But I do enjoy the idea of OKW finally getting some affordable medium tanks.
6 Apr 2015, 07:20 AM
#283
Posts: 2280 | Subs: 2
Permanently BannedOKW struggles a bit more in ones
I dont give a fuck
Every faction struggles at some point in ones
I dont give a fuck
Every faction struggles at some point in ones
There is no recording in all WW2 history of a piat actually knocking off a vehicle. Yes, it was THAT bad.
6 Apr 2015, 08:49 AM
#284
Posts: 1150
Lol no just no
Red Bear dun give no fucks bout Axis fanboi tears.
Nuclear Arbitor, since when is Wehrmacht/Ostheer OKH? That's strange and confusing.
6 Apr 2015, 09:18 AM
#285
Posts: 144
I have an idea. What if allied players with their superior microing skills combined with unit preservation skills and superiour "know your enemy" (coming from that side) started to play the op okw? They would surely steamroll everyone. That's what I think would happen.
Yup.
I did, like 6 months ago, before Kubel and Panther buff. I switched to USF then because I found OKW to be far too easy. Here you go
6 Apr 2015, 09:57 AM
#286
Posts: 721
I did, like 6 months ago, before Kubel and Panther buff. I switched to USF then because I found OKW to be far too easy. Here you go
And I jumped into a 4v4 game as USF (long time no see) with randoms on the wrong side of Rostov a day Before patch and won. And that was with armor Company and bought myself an M10 too. It killed a panther albeit in co-op with other tanks. So either my skills are godlike OR it's not so very difficult to play USF as people think on this forum.
My mommy always said there were no monsters - no real ones - but there are.
6 Apr 2015, 10:11 AM
#287
Posts: 2693 | Subs: 1
What was really changed with obersoldaten? LMG34 dps slightly reduced and cost 60 munition only. Paratroopers need to pay for their dps twice more.
Yes, that was it. Though 25% is not a slight reduction, it is pretty significant.
All it means now is that they don't automatically destroy all enemy infantry and you have to use cover a bit.
6 Apr 2015, 10:35 AM
#288
4 Posts: 1194 | Subs: 1
Obers are balanced now in 1s I believe. They are a large investment, but they are worth every cent. I don't think ober price should be reduced because if the price was, say, 360, the squadmembers would be cheaper to reinforce by quite a bit even with the LMG/IRSTG.
6 Apr 2015, 11:00 AM
#289
Posts: 1486
Both germ fractions have a strong defending abilties. If they are deployed they become non-breakable in a short time.
So they get clear advantage in terms of winning on points.
Allied fraction cant set defended positions with 180 degree arc MGS , build shooting building killing any infantry, most tanks and worth at least 1 medium tank,
So to get balanced game
1. allied units must be bit stronger than germ units.
2. or germs must get more than 500 points to win, maybe 700
Ps dont know about USF cuz i when i get this game USF were nt available.
So they get clear advantage in terms of winning on points.
Allied fraction cant set defended positions with 180 degree arc MGS , build shooting building killing any infantry, most tanks and worth at least 1 medium tank,
So to get balanced game
1. allied units must be bit stronger than germ units.
2. or germs must get more than 500 points to win, maybe 700
Ps dont know about USF cuz i when i get this game USF were nt available.
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6 Apr 2015, 18:04 PM
#290
8 Posts: 2470
Nuclear Arbitor, since when is Wehrmacht/Ostheer OKH? That's strange and confusing.
after moscow when OKW generally took control of every other theater.
OKH: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oberkommando_des_Heeres
OKW: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oberkommando_der_Wehrmacht
6 Apr 2015, 19:58 PM
#291
Posts: 3103 | Subs: 1
after moscow when OKW generally took control of every other theater.
OKH: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oberkommando_des_Heeres
OKW: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oberkommando_der_Wehrmacht
To be fair though, the W in our OKW certainly ain't Wehrmacht.
But giving those titles to the two factions would make a lot more sense than what we got now (One faction is named after the entirety of the German military in World War 2...then there's another German military faction?).
7 Apr 2015, 00:27 AM
#292
8 Posts: 2470
yeah, i like to pretend that relic didn't invent a battle group.
7 Apr 2015, 00:34 AM
#293
Posts: 3103 | Subs: 1
Oberkommando West doesn't bother me as much as Wehrmacht. It's made up, but artistic licence works fine with that. Wehrmacht isn't made up and is very misapplied.
I was definitely much happier without the Wehrmacht being explicitly named so I could assume it was Ostheer (also a much cooler name)...
I was definitely much happier without the Wehrmacht being explicitly named so I could assume it was Ostheer (also a much cooler name)...
7 Apr 2015, 06:10 AM
#294
Posts: 2396 | Subs: 1
If it was up to me, i would re-design the faction around lots of automatic weapons, Panzer 4's and stugs.
Then the "late german army" won't be "late" anymore would it? You cannot extract KT, Puma (with 50 mm cannon) and Wurframen from OKW unnits line - unfortunately. What they could have done, is to give them rather shitty infantry - because in late war there were few elite trops remaining, but here is the faction design's problem. Not to mention that OKW misses one of its most representative weapons: FLAK 88 cannon. I can't even begin to tell how much OPness whine would that rotating, PAK43-like shooting gun would have started.
BeefSurge wrote:
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
7 Apr 2015, 09:38 AM
#295
Posts: 721
because in late war there were few elite trops remainingYes, they had all moved on to better jobs by then.
My mommy always said there were no monsters - no real ones - but there are.
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