Not bad but removing PS from B4 should go along with reduce scatter with vets.
Longer range = reduced scatter
Patch March 31st changelog
31 Mar 2015, 08:11 AM
#281
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Longer range = reduced scatter
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31 Mar 2015, 08:18 AM
#282
Posts: 1225
If T34/76 is considered viable against Ost T3, then so is P4 against 34/85.
Heavies are different can of worms and last time I checked, USF(which I was talking about vs ost if you paid any attention to the post) didn't had IS-2 tanks.
What kind of an argument is that? Some bizarre equivocation...you do realise that 34/76s and PIVs are both tech units, while 85s are not, and come without opportunity costs? whatever.
As for the viability of OH T3, PIV/StuG will now survive one more shot (but in return, will no longer profit from increased armour at vet2 which gave them a chance to bounce Jackson shots) from a unit that outranges it by 20/10 and cannot be flanked. If you think that this will have a really momentous impact, then you're plain wrong.
31 Mar 2015, 08:25 AM
#283
Posts: 1355
Because OKW get absolutely nothing good for that first 120 fuel...
Thank you.Alex is so full of sh..
31 Mar 2015, 08:27 AM
#284
Posts: 710
Huge amount of off topic / trolling cleared from the thread.
This was expected but please, keep it civil you guys!
This was expected but please, keep it civil you guys!
31 Mar 2015, 08:28 AM
#285
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Posts: 4785 | Subs: 3
Hard to tell because of avatar and certain group of players warrioring for axis
I agree ^^ I simply have a thing for German Army stuff that is why I have the avatar but I am not biased there
Well, that was the most straight forward and logical change they could get.
At base they have twice the performance effectiveness of grens, free LMG was just the icing on the cake, which was obvious to go down first. Anyway, meta and BOs for OKW should get more varied and interesting now instead of LOLVOLKBLOB with oberspam into panther/KT.
I completely agree there too but I still assumed they wouldn't because OKW=Elite troops etc. I really hope the Schreck-nerf will encourage players to try playing Volks in a different way once they realize their Volksblob just got fucked up because they had to get close to the tank.
And as a side effect, they have made Ost T3 100% viable, jackson is now worse against Ost T3 then SU-85, both requiring same amount of shots to kill the tanks, but jackson having 50% slower ROF. It also makes bazooka more useful thanks to deflect damage it had actually making a difference now.
Indeed. Ost now actually has a chance to actually outplay Jacksons. I still hope T3 will be a bit more effective against Soviets.
31 Mar 2015, 08:38 AM
#286
Posts: 2396 | Subs: 1
I don't even play the game enough to have a viable opinion of the balance
You are still more entitled to have an opinion related to balance than Katitof, who doesn't play the game at all
. He post to much on 2 forums to actually have time to play. The only mistake you make, is that you actually took him seriously.
BeefSurge wrote:
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
31 Mar 2015, 08:40 AM
#287
Posts: 101
I have a question regarding the PRTS changes:
Won't this lead to the return of the 'marcus car' (M3 + guards) as a hard counter to the upgraded 221?
... countering the M3 spam hard counter.
- PTRS Accuracy increased from 0.03 / 0.0425 / 0.055 to 0.22 / 0.50 / 0.60
Won't this lead to the return of the 'marcus car' (M3 + guards) as a hard counter to the upgraded 221?
... countering the M3 spam hard counter.
31 Mar 2015, 08:41 AM
#288
10 Posts: 4785 | Subs: 3
You are still more entitled to have an opinion related to balance than Katitof, who doesn't play the game at all
I take everyone seriously to some level... This helps not losing track
31 Mar 2015, 08:43 AM
#289
Posts: 17891 | Subs: 8
Yes, I don't play game at all, my imposer uploads all the replays.
Meanwhile there is more evidence of big foot existence then you, JohnnyB even having the game installed.
Now, on the maps:
No more semoisky, no more hurtgen forrest=2 vetos saved!
Meanwhile there is more evidence of big foot existence then you, JohnnyB even having the game installed.
Now, on the maps:
No more semoisky, no more hurtgen forrest=2 vetos saved!
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
31 Mar 2015, 08:48 AM
#290
Posts: 1355
99% of the post here are:
You guys are embarrassing.... sigh
You guys are embarrassing.... sigh
31 Mar 2015, 08:50 AM
#291
Posts: 1225
Yes, I don't play game at all, my imposer uploads all the replays.
Meanwhile there is more evidence of big foot existence then you, JohnnyB even having the game installed.
Now, on the maps:
No more semoisky, no more hurtgen forrest=2 vetos saved!
"All the replays"? Reality check Katitof, no offence. And yes, if you spent just 1/10ths of the time you devote to sometimes viciously insulting and attacking people in these forums actually playing the game, it would be easier to take your opinions seriously.
31 Mar 2015, 08:57 AM
#292
Posts: 270
Point is, your assumption is stupid cause you don't tech to get KT.
Yeah, but still you HAVE TO spend some additional 120 fuel fuel to get it.
Not the case with IS2, just lay behind your zis walls till it arrives at the 15 min mark, make sure you set the rally point on your opponent's base, because nothing can stop it.
Anyways, I think the developers are clueless at this point and the new balance team is "experimenting".
I'll try again.
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31 Mar 2015, 09:01 AM
#293
Posts: 82
Yep. IS2 and Jackson city now.
31 Mar 2015, 09:01 AM
#294
Posts: 4630 | Subs: 2
Yeah, but still you HAVE TO spend some additional 120 fuel fuel to get it.
Not the case with IS2, just lay behind your zis walls till it arrives at the 15 min mark, make sure you set the rally point on your opponent's base, because nothing can stop it.
Off top:
If you want 15min IS2 you have to be gardening aggressive to get 11CPs. Won't happen if you will sit behind ZiS. Even if you won't sit behind them, you wont get 15min IS2.
T2 in fact is quite easy to counter. I mean, you play really defensively and you leave the space for OKW to play aggresively like they like. Sometimes fat T70+T34 and then IS2 is better than sitting and waiting for IS2.
31 Mar 2015, 09:03 AM
#295
Posts: 73
Hey this game doesn't suck fat donkey balls anymore. Awesome!!!
31 Mar 2015, 09:16 AM
#296
Posts: 2396 | Subs: 1
Hey this game doesn't suck fat donkey balls anymore. Awesome!!!
How could you know? Did you play the last version? Patch is not on steam yet.
Let's all wait, play, and see. Then come here and debate.
@ Not applying to Katitof. He will not wait, or play, or see. He will just come here and post nonsense. Nothing we aren't used to, though.
BeefSurge wrote:
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
31 Mar 2015, 09:25 AM
#297
Posts: 17891 | Subs: 8
Yep. IS2 and Jackson city now.
KT+ele anyone?
Don't try to spot a problem where none exists.
@JohnnyB
Your trolling is boring and of low quality, improve and come back.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
31 Mar 2015, 09:30 AM
#298
Posts: 4630 | Subs: 2
KT+ele anyone?
Don't try to spot a problem where none exists.
@JohnnyB
Your trolling is boring and of low quality, improve and come back.
Im still having nightmares from time to time beacause of this freaking combo in 2v2...
31 Mar 2015, 09:30 AM
#299
Posts: 48
Let's all wait, play, and see. Then come here and debate.
@ Not applying to Katitof. He will not wait, or play, or see. He will just come here and post nonsense. Nothing we aren't used to, though.
This, my dear, equally applies to the many axis fanboy forum warriors already crying so butthurt just from reading the patchnotes and theorycrafting...
Everyone seems to be so brilliant at this game that they immediately grasp all the changes that will come to the meta, before having even played it.
People should just play the game with the new patch, enjoy the new (old) maps and stop dramatizing beforehand, thank you.
31 Mar 2015, 09:34 AM
#300
Posts: 1486
looks that germs gonna be nerfed a bit.
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