Posts: 65
To conclude, let's change OKW faction entirely.
Posts: 824
Let's correct you:
1. Buff Pathfinders when compared to JLI
2. Nerf Kubel so hard, yes
3. Absolutely. They got a munitions income buff, time to adjust some things with that in mind
4. I don't think anybody has suggested this, but feel free to provide me with links to prove me wrong
5. This is the alternative to 3, not an additional. Reducing it back and adjusting some prices is essentially the same as upping various costs
6. Absolutely need to spawn without LMG's, yes.
7. Who the hell said that?
8. Seriously who
9. Where are you getting this from. Goofy plz.
I'm really curious how long axis players will be able to cling to the 'oh it's just because they're cool!' reason for continuous 70%+ searching as Axis. As if somehow CoH2 is a unique special snowflake in all of human behavior, and every game ever won't have players gravitate (as a majority) towards the path of least resistance and the easiest army to play and win with.
Posts: 148
OKW has the best infantry and tanks throughout the game. But if you think this is an advanage, think again.
Start game it's the only point where OKW is advantaged, because of kubel.
From Middle game the fuel problem begins to be serious untill late-game and end-gam.
Virtualy, in early game you don't need vehicles, you're doing fine with good infantry and kubel.
In middle game you will begin to lose the race related to tank building and you will have to compensate with infantry and team weapons as raketen. Now those from you who played vCOH know that infantry in COH2 it's not vCOH infantry, no matter the faction. When the map begins to be filled with tanks, infantry will be torn to pieces. Volksgenadiersw with a single schreck plus raketen cannot compensate enough the lack of AT as pzgrens and PAK 40 can compensate for Ostheer. A Puma must be added. But with every vehicle you build, you delay your teching and building of others (more powerfull) vehicles. Puma it's ok, but it's not for late game. Cannot realy fight with IS2, SU-85, T34/85 and so on. So you struggle untill late game to build one or two vehicles and (remember!!) keep them alive! I can lose a T34, I will build other in 2 minutes. I lose a Puma I will build other in 5 maybe 10 minutes.
More than this choises you make are particulary more important for THIS faction because flexibility it's not its strongpoint! Which makes it quite predictable on the battlefield.
Since beginning I have to make a choice: build T2 or T3? What should I do? If you make the rong choice that will cost you dearly. No T2 start (by T2 we understand the leigh + searchlight + jgdpanzer building) will keep you safe from a tank storm. On the other hand, if you chose T3, you will have some great options good for all but your infantry will suffer because you cannot heal it. T4 it,s usefull no doubt, but you have to put it somewhat in an advanced position (this is its purpose) and therefore exposed to all kind of artillery weapons and AT weapons. I don't want to mention here how efficient is soviet howitzer or katiusha against any OKW build. Or how B4 can kill your havies or buidings from such a safe distance whithout the possibility to retaliate.
Your heavies will be expensive, verry expensive. Panther is still possible but if you manage too build 2 you are a champion. However, by the time you do that, your opponent will most probably have 4 T34/76 plus one IS2 or plus 2 T34/85.
If you want to build a KT you will wait forever while not building vehicles at all or building just one which is VERRY RISKY from reasons stated above.
So yes, OKW it's a verry nice faction to play and it's quite hard not to like it due to it's elite units, but make no mistake related to difficulty. If you are a soviet or american only player and didn't try OKW yet, you will have a shock when you will try it for the first time. I remember what a (soviet only) guy said on this forum not verry long ago. Something like: OMG begun to play today with OKW and I found myself in middle game with to few infantry and with almost no vehicles, wtf?!
As a conclusion, the specific of this faction it's "high reward - high risk" and it was like this from the beginning. That is why it's so addictive and special, and not because it's "easy to play" as some people said here. Au contraire, I realy think that only truly skilfull players can be good with this faction. The rest of players if you want to reach the top, play soviets
On a more serious note, a faction comparable to OKW as difficulty (though totally different) it's currently USF, but it wasn't allways like that.
Posts: 17886 | Subs: 8
+1. Soviets are definitely the strongest faction in 1v1. 2v2 things are pretty balanced with some tweaks needed.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
Posts: 2280 | Subs: 2
Permanently Banned
+1. Soviets are definitely the strongest faction in 1v1.
There is no recording in all WW2 history of a piat actually knocking off a vehicle. Yes, it was THAT bad.
Posts: 2396 | Subs: 1
1.I agree the Pathfinders need a buff
2.Yes
3.I am fine with this as long as the MP cost of Falls and Obers gets reduced; if they have to pay for their LMG.
4.I have seen a few suggestions for this in other threads, but not often
5.Agreed, this is the alternative to 3, the OKW arty costs should be reduced then, as should the Panzershrek upgrade
6.See 3
7.http://www.coh2.org/topic/22753/okw-puma
8.http://www.coh2.org/topic/23825/limit-king-tiger-to-1-built-per-gamehttp://www.coh2.org/topic/22243/why-isn-t-the-king-tiger-doctrinal
9.http://www.coh2.org/topic/22873/jagdtiger--the-gamebreakerhttp://www.coh2.org/topic/19656/world-of-jagdtiger-online
As for the end part of your post, see my signature.
Posts: 2396 | Subs: 1
Not anymore...
Posts: 2115 | Subs: 1
Posts: 1605 | Subs: 1
Manny thanks for sparing me of searching these topics.
Again, some people don't understand OKW achitecture, that's why they are crying OP all day. Comparing one unit to another, without considering all other factors is just wrong.
Posts: 1617
Honestly, i find Soviets to be the best 1v1 faction overall. And yes, i am playing the game actively. Look at my playercard. US is high risk and potentially high reward. Ostheer has weak early game but solid mid and lategame. And OKW is just frustrating to play in a 1v1 scenario.
okw > 
usf
soviets
ostheer Posts: 2115 | Subs: 1
You're only way to play Sov is Snipers/Shocks + ISU-152, or just accept the uneven losing battle.
Ostheer's early game is a bit tricky against USF, but osttruppens can compensate it, or a lucky teller.
USF...ah....nevermind, doesn't worth it.
Posts: 1617
Weird, i had a lot of success with other soviet strats too. How come?
Posts: 395
Posts: 1617
Let's not forget OKW starts with enough fuel to immediately tech. No other faction can do it. OKW only needs, what, 50 fuel to pop a flaktrak (subtracting free starting fuel) or 70(?) for a puma.
USF needs 80 for captain, 15 for bazooka (which is uselss), 25 for grenade (free with OKW tech)
If USF goes for LT at 50, Puma will simply pop and overpower the m20 unless a lucky mine. 50+55 (for flak track) minus the much smaller starting USF fuel means Puma will very quickly hit the field and give USF a very small window.
Oh, the 50 cal does nothing to puma for some reason, yet the mg34 can pop incendiary and own an m20 or flak track
Posts: 1637
The PTRS's are fine as they are. Whenever i'm up against Guard Infantry, I always have to be careful with my vehicles or the Guards will completely destroy them. Good range, good damage and fairly cheap; if anything, the PTRS should nerfed since it's ridiculously good for the price. Even in the hands of Conscripts, the PTRS's are extremely potent.
Posts: 229
Then elevate the other factions to their level by making more units in their rosters viable and rewarding to use.
Posts: 1637
Buff the SU-76!
FOR THE RODINA!
The PTRS's are fine as they are. Whenever i'm up against Guard Infantry, I always have to be careful with my vehicles or the Guards will completely destroy them. Good range, good damage and fairly cheap; if anything, the PTRS should nerfed since it's ridiculously good for the price. Even in the hands of Conscripts, the PTRS's are extremely potent.
Posts: 2280 | Subs: 2
Permanently Banned
Buff the SU-76!
FOR THE RODINA!
There is no recording in all WW2 history of a piat actually knocking off a vehicle. Yes, it was THAT bad.
 |
|
|
18 | ||
 |
|
|
14 | ||
 |
|
|
3 | ||
|
|
|
|
1 | ||
|
|
|
|
28 | ||
 |
|
|
8 |
Relic Entertainment
cblanco ★ 
보드카 중대 
VonManteuffel 
Heartless Jäger 
