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New Soviet Commander: Tank Hunter Tactics

21 Aug 2014, 15:33 PM
#1
avatar of Abdul

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This is the second time I see this commander, first time as a drop and the second time now in the load out of one of my random 3v3 mates. I asked the guy what he thought about it, but he didn't say much. I think this commander can wreck any okw player that goes early ht/puma/p2. I am not sure I like that. Plus with so many commanders it just seems you dont have enough slots for all of those commanders anymore.

21 Aug 2014, 15:43 PM
#2
avatar of Porygon

Posts: 2616

Buy us a microscope, will ya?
21 Aug 2014, 15:44 PM
#3
avatar of KingJames

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Yes, it seems like this commander will wreck any early game armor the axis can throw at the soviets. However, if the Soviet player is getting scripts and upgrading them with the PTRS then the soviets will be weak to infantry. Rush a medium tank and you are good to go.
21 Aug 2014, 15:52 PM
#4
avatar of Katitof

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Its a conscript based commander with no ppsh, no guards, no shocks.

As much as I'd like to have it, its only value is collectors value, because most ineffective infantry squad coupled with most ineffective AT weapon simply can not work.
21 Aug 2014, 16:02 PM
#5
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Yeah, 3 CP for a PTRS upgrade is waaaaaay too late. If it came earlier it might be useful for blowing up trucks though.

The grenade assault is pretty bad and easy to dodge. Can't comment on any of the other abilities.
21 Aug 2014, 16:04 PM
#6
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Posts: 617

I have this commander. I agree with what Romeo said, having played with it. The grenade ability is easy to avoid, and the PTRSs come out a bit late.
21 Aug 2014, 16:08 PM
#7
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jump backJump back to quoted post21 Aug 2014, 15:52 PMKatitof
Its a conscript based commander with no ppsh, no guards, no shocks.

As much as I'd like to have it, its only value is collectors value, because most ineffective infantry squad coupled with most ineffective AT weapon simply can not work.


To be honest, aside from the script ptrs, everything in this commander seems perfectly viable. I have no play experience with it though. Scripts arent that bad. They may be more of a utility squad, but they still can damage and kill enemy infantry. Before WFA release, hardly anyone complained. Now it seems like Scripts are the worst unit in the game. I can imagine this commander to be pretty effective against the Wehrmacht and to a limited extent against the OKW, because of the high dps infantry they have.

I would be more interested in seeing the not one step back commander..
21 Aug 2014, 16:16 PM
#8
avatar of Napalm

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The only thing this commander is lacking is hit the dirt and rapid conscription.
21 Aug 2014, 16:17 PM
#9
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Can you do anything against a Jadgtiger + obers/falls/jaeger with that commander? Or a Tiger + Gren/LMG spam?

I think the answer is no.

Maybe in 1vs1 you can do an amazing early/mid game and win fast with him, but he's useless in teamgames.
21 Aug 2014, 16:23 PM
#10
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Posts: 207

jump backJump back to quoted post21 Aug 2014, 15:43 PMPorygon
Buy us a microscope, will ya?


Really??? Perhaps you should do yourself a favor and get a larger monitor........:loco:
21 Aug 2014, 17:10 PM
#11
avatar of FriedRise

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jump backJump back to quoted post21 Aug 2014, 16:16 PMNapalm
The only thing this commander is lacking is hit the dirt and rapid conscription.


You forgot the best Soviet ability EVAR: Armored Vehicle Detection.
21 Aug 2014, 17:15 PM
#12
avatar of Affe

Posts: 578

Commander Looks boring.

They should really add something cool for soviets like SU-100 or KV-85 tanks. but this infantry only commanders are dull and boring.
21 Aug 2014, 17:21 PM
#13
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it would be neat if this commander actually enabled you to hunt tanks
21 Aug 2014, 17:36 PM
#14
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It should be renamed to Car Hunter Tactics
21 Aug 2014, 17:44 PM
#15
avatar of Katitof

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jump backJump back to quoted post21 Aug 2014, 17:36 PMGreeb
It should be renamed to Car Hunter Tactics


More like Truck Hunter Tactics.

Have you ever tried to kill scout car with PTRS without button?
21 Aug 2014, 17:59 PM
#16
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Really??? Perhaps you should do yourself a favor and get a larger monitor........:loco:


You guys seriously can read that 7KB 138x180 jpg?
21 Aug 2014, 18:01 PM
#17
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jump backJump back to quoted post21 Aug 2014, 17:59 PMPorygon
You guys seriously can read that 7KB 138x180 jpg?


It's 743x949 for me.
21 Aug 2014, 18:49 PM
#18
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They may be more of a utility squad, but they still can damage and kill enemy infantry. Before WFA release, hardly anyone complained.

Because the matchup against OH is completely different than with OKW.
21 Aug 2014, 19:28 PM
#19
avatar of The_Courier

Posts: 665

Had a teammate who used it.

Grenades are slow, and not terribly effective. You won't hit anything faster than a Tiger, and then the 'nades probably won't penetrate.

The mines seem redundant, since Soviets already have a cheap and effective mine.

Conscript PTRS at 3 CPs? This weapon already sucks at 2 CP on the thougher Guards for free, now you want to make your only infantry even less powerful by paying ammo for it, in order to get a rifle that can't hurt anything bigger than a halftrack? Sure, that totally justifies getting the doctrine.

Salvage kit he didn't even use. Not really an exciting ability.¸

The bombing run is apparently fairly cheap, but the bombs aren't very powerful. From what I saw a few hits brought a P4 to half health.

It seems this commander is pretty much only there for flavor, or if you won the early game so hard you want to troll your opponent.
21 Aug 2014, 19:33 PM
#20
avatar of Arclyte

Posts: 692

Easily worse than NKVD
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