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Blitzkrieg is pretty useless now

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29 Apr 2014, 04:07 AM
#101
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jump backJump back to quoted post29 Apr 2014, 03:55 AMPorygon
Saying the current blitz helps flanking is like saying walking for one min per day helps you losing weight.

Can you Soviet troll make some fucking sense?
All I read in this thread is some Soviet player celebrating that the uberOP German finally have some shit to eat. L2PADAPT trolllololol.


This goddamn Blitzkreig = put rocket booster in panzer exist since the very starting day from vCOH, and they replace it with a muni waste button after 7 years, lel

Or just revert it prepatched but make it expensive but global like the vCOH blitz.



Ok, and i want my Allied War Machine and Field Repairs
29 Apr 2014, 04:13 AM
#102
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jump backJump back to quoted post29 Apr 2014, 04:07 AMVitor



Ok, and i want my Allied War Machine and Field Repairs


They will come in late June.
29 Apr 2014, 04:13 AM
#103
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jump backJump back to quoted post29 Apr 2014, 04:13 AMPorygon


They will come in late June.



So oberkommando can have the old blitzkrieg.
29 Apr 2014, 06:16 AM
#104
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jump backJump back to quoted post28 Apr 2014, 22:34 PMpigsoup


lol pak is better than ever and the at-gap between pak and zis is even bigger now.


Agreed. No argue about pak here, they are great.
Problem is that honestly I didn't find yet the proper combo to counter massive soviet armor assaults. That is a 2v2 and over 2v2 issue. Related to 1v1 I think things are rather balanced.
29 Apr 2014, 10:26 AM
#105
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Blitzkreig was broken. Period.
It allowed you to get behind enemy lines or escape to safety without and problem or effort. It promoted bad play and nothing more.
29 Apr 2014, 10:30 AM
#106
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Blitzkreig was broken. Period.
It allowed you to get behind enemy lines or escape to safety without and problem or effort. It promoted bad play and nothing more.


The result of escape to safety without and problem or effort, is due to Russian not mining, buttoning, AT nading, but not blitz.

More funny is the current patch, Sherman speed is less or equal to the old blitzing P4. <444>_<444> and some Russian player stating it promoted bad play :unsure:
29 Apr 2014, 10:38 AM
#107
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jump backJump back to quoted post29 Apr 2014, 10:30 AMPorygon


The result of escape to safety without and problem or effort, is due to Russian not mining, buttoning, AT nading, but not blitz.

More funny is the current patch, Sherman speed is less or equal to the old blitzing P4. <444>_<444> and some Russian player stating it promoted bad play :unsure:



What? Did you really just write that? Did you even once tried to AT nade a Panther tank? I don't think you did so can you please stop saying stuff you have no idea about?
I know you're upset because now you have to rely on your skill rather than broken abilities and judging from the tone of your posts this is not working for you.
29 Apr 2014, 10:44 AM
#108
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What? Did you really just write that? Did you even once tried to AT nade a Panther tank? I don't think you did so can you please stop saying stuff you have no idea about?
I know you're upset because now you have to rely on your skill rather than broken abilities and judging from the tone of your posts this is not working for you.


Then nerf the Panther, leave P4 Ostwind and Tiger alone. Panther close to extinction in 1v1 anyway, who cares? PQ said they would take care of vet 2 panther because those team game players whining it is toostronk, ends up now turning blitz into trash.
29 Apr 2014, 10:47 AM
#109
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Panther is more lethal than ever now. When they fix its penetration it will be even better.
29 Apr 2014, 10:47 AM
#110
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jump backJump back to quoted post29 Apr 2014, 10:30 AMPorygon


The result of escape to safety without and problem or effort, is due to Russian not mining, buttoning, AT nading, but not blitz.


Just keep repeating that, eventually you might start to believe it yourself!
29 Apr 2014, 11:02 AM
#111
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Panther is more lethal than ever now. When they fix its penetration it will be even better.


Ultra high teching cost and panther price is more likely the cause of its extinction.
29 Apr 2014, 11:06 AM
#112
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jump backJump back to quoted post29 Apr 2014, 03:55 AMPorygon

Can you Soviet troll make some fucking sense?
All I read in this thread is some Soviet player celebrating that the uberOP German finally have some shit to eat. L2PADAPT trolllololol.


The irony is delicious.
29 Apr 2014, 11:19 AM
#113
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jump backJump back to quoted post29 Apr 2014, 11:02 AMPorygon


Ultra high teching cost and panther price is more likely the cause of its extinction.


yeah, by the time you have one Panther on the field while working your back hard to obtain it, it will be welcomed by 3 t34s / shermans just waiting to eat it alive now that is thinner. Duno, it just does not worth the investment.
Anyone saying different is just talking nonsense. Even soviet suporters around here are saying you better spam stugs / P4s than building an expensive piece of shit.
29 Apr 2014, 11:30 AM
#114
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Panthers are not worth anymore, expensive and underperforming (175 fuel and nerfed WTF?) better get a Tiger or spam P4. Tiger antiinfantry is fucking awesome right now. Dont even spend resources into panthers.
29 Apr 2014, 11:35 AM
#115
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You need to rely on Paks before you get your Panther. That's how it works.
29 Apr 2014, 11:45 AM
#116
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jump backJump back to quoted post29 Apr 2014, 03:55 AMPorygon
Saying the current blitz helps flanking is like saying walking for one min per day helps you losing weight.

Can you Soviet troll make some fucking sense?
All I read in this thread is some Soviet player celebrating that the uberOP German finally have some shit to eat. L2PADAPT trolllololol.


This goddamn Blitzkreig = put rocket booster in panzer exist since the very starting day from vCOH, and they replace it with a muni waste button for a pretty lightning logo on the head after 7 years, lel

Or just revert it prepatched but make it expensive but global like the vCOH blitz.

Increase the cost? Fine.
Decrease the duration? Fine.
Decrease extra maximum speed? Fine.
Remove extra maximum speed and just increase acceleration? Dafug, did you ever study elementary Physics?

Yeah, PQ said shocks in m3 to counter Pios. <444>_<444> I wonder if this guy being the only person deciding balancing change.


It was a assaulting or oh shit button. Now it is an oh shit button while driving into, hur, mud?


Sweet Good idea. And lets have a global upgrade for the Soviet faction as well. Its called MORPH SU85s INTO TURRETED M10 TANK DESTROYERS ON! And then lets add recoiless rifles and Bazookas.

/Sarcasm off

Ram was stupid. Ram got fixed. Blitz was stupid. Blitz got fixed. I still think it should be free or very very cheap. But it should never be the abomination it has been.
29 Apr 2014, 13:51 PM
#117
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You need to rely on Paks before you get your Panther. That's how it works.


i guess people were just used to t34 being impotent against panthers except via ramming for too long. i know i was lol.
29 Apr 2014, 15:53 PM
#118
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its always the same story with relic, or too much or nothing ...before was too fast, now is too slow.

they dont know the half measures
29 Apr 2014, 15:57 PM
#119
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jump backJump back to quoted post29 Apr 2014, 13:51 PMpigsoup


i guess people were just used to t34 being impotent against panthers except via ramming for too long. i know i was lol.


No doubt eh? The Pak 40's rock.
30 Apr 2014, 18:07 PM
#120
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jump backJump back to quoted post29 Apr 2014, 03:55 AMPorygon

Can you Soviet troll make some fucking sense?
All I read in this thread is some Soviet player celebrating that the uberOP German finally have some shit to eat. L2PADAPT trolllololol.




maybe you should try to use green cover. I heard it helps win games.
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