FFS, who design this spotting scope crap? It is a doctrine ability but turns out being extremely useless.
Just a game trying to play Elefant, that stupid driver and gunner just can't resist their fun or whatever shooting at random Soviet guy, making the vehicle keep rotating and nullify the spotting scope, while the Soviet ISU keep pumping shell with their non-doctrine scope wiping out whatever they like.
Just give Ele a hold fire and don't fucking move button okay?
Elefant is just a bitch to micro
24 Mar 2014, 12:09 PM
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24 Mar 2014, 12:23 PM
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I think AT Guns and AT Tanks should just have a "Vehicle Only" engagement mode to prevent these shenanigans.
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24 Mar 2014, 12:31 PM
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Or just make spotting scope like the Soviet one?
24 Mar 2014, 12:48 PM
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Or just make spotting scope like the Soviet one?
Soviets have spotting scopes?
24 Mar 2014, 12:58 PM
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Soviets have spotting scopes?
I think he means the SU-85's 'zoom' mode. I disagree, while it'd be nice stock on some vehicles, I prefer spotting scopes as they are, great for StuG's in pairs and amazing on Scout Cars.
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24 Mar 2014, 13:09 PM
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This is what I have been complaining all the time, just give *Hold fire* or *Vehicles only* mode.
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24 Mar 2014, 13:17 PM
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agree
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24 Mar 2014, 13:18 PM
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I have to agree with the OP on this one.
Having a hold fire and/or target vehicles only ability should be standard issue for AT guns and tank destroyers.
Maybe this can be considered in future optimization patches? Would have been fun to have it implemented from the get-go but I guess we'll just have to wait and say our daily prayers to the RNG god for this one.
Having a hold fire and/or target vehicles only ability should be standard issue for AT guns and tank destroyers.
Maybe this can be considered in future optimization patches? Would have been fun to have it implemented from the get-go but I guess we'll just have to wait and say our daily prayers to the RNG god for this one.
24 Mar 2014, 13:25 PM
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Hold Fire on the Ele has nothing to do with Spotting scopes. Because you can put a spotting scope on this one unit and it doesnt handle it well doesnt mean there is something wrong with the scope
Good God a vetted scout car with spotting scopes is damn near a maphack.
Personally I dont think the Ele should even be allowed to have spotting scopes and I think thats everybodys problem with this unit. Focus sight yes Spotting scope plus focus sights no.
Good God a vetted scout car with spotting scopes is damn near a maphack.
Personally I dont think the Ele should even be allowed to have spotting scopes and I think thats everybodys problem with this unit. Focus sight yes Spotting scope plus focus sights no.
The PTRS's are fine as they are. Whenever i'm up against Guard Infantry, I always have to be careful with my vehicles or the Guards will completely destroy them. Good range, good damage and fairly cheap; if anything, the PTRS should nerfed since it's ridiculously good for the price. Even in the hands of Conscripts, the PTRS's are extremely potent.
24 Mar 2014, 13:25 PM
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I think he means the SU-85's 'zoom' mode. I disagree, while it'd be nice stock on some vehicles, I prefer spotting scopes as they are, great for StuG's in pairs and amazing on Scout Cars.
The zoom mode (focus sight) on the ISU152, SU85s and elephants all work exactly the same.
24 Mar 2014, 13:29 PM
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The zoom mode (focus sight) on the ISU152, SU85s and elephants all work exactly the same.
Except Spotting scopes EXTEND the Eles focus sights. Like For Mother Russia Stacking with OORAH. If the ele moves of course GASP IT ONLY HAS REGULAR FOCUS SIGHTS!
The PTRS's are fine as they are. Whenever i'm up against Guard Infantry, I always have to be careful with my vehicles or the Guards will completely destroy them. Good range, good damage and fairly cheap; if anything, the PTRS should nerfed since it's ridiculously good for the price. Even in the hands of Conscripts, the PTRS's are extremely potent.
24 Mar 2014, 13:37 PM
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Honestly the elefant is one of the easiest units to micro.
but hold fire on atguns and assault guns would be very very nice.
but hold fire on atguns and assault guns would be very very nice.
24 Mar 2014, 13:50 PM
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Honestly the elefant is one of the easiest units to micro.
but hold fire on atguns and assault guns would be very very nice.
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24 Mar 2014, 15:37 PM
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FFS, who design this spotting scope crap? It is a doctrine ability but turns out being extremely useless.
Just a game trying to play Elefant, that stupid driver and gunner just can't resist their fun or whatever shooting at random Soviet guy, making the vehicle keep rotating and nullify the spotting scope, while the Soviet ISU keep pumping shell with their non-doctrine scope wiping out whatever they like.
Just give Ele a hold fire and don't fucking move button okay?
I will tell you a secret-you can click this little thingy called "focused vision" and viola! Free spotting scopes that are always on!
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
24 Mar 2014, 16:38 PM
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Put hold fire on EVERY unit in the game. Seriously.
24 Mar 2014, 16:47 PM
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I will tell you a secret-you can click this little thingy called "focused vision" and viola! Free spotting scopes that are always on!
Of course I activated it, smartass
24 Mar 2014, 17:06 PM
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I will tell you a secret-you can click this little thingy called "focused vision" and viola! Free spotting scopes that are always on!
spotting scope + focused sight = crossmap sight
24 Mar 2014, 17:09 PM
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Cheesus-sight.
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25 Mar 2014, 01:08 AM
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Just give all units, non turreted tanks a hold position/fire mode.
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And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
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28 Mar 2014, 03:17 AM
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I find (however annoying it maybe) it is worth while to turn it at an angle and make sure it doesn't have long sight enabled. Face it towards a close building if possible. Just don't turn it around. The last thing you want is for some lucky Field Gun to roll up behind it if it is turned 180.
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