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The doctrine of the Red Army paratroops.

30 Dec 2013, 07:47 AM
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Since closed beta test - I would like to have the Soviet Union were paratroopers.
After reviewing me and my friends came up with following:

1-2 CP - paratroopers - 6 people x6 PPSh-41 / better PPS-43, x2 PTRS / PTRD upgrade, grenade

3 CP - Light Amphibious Tank T-40 delivered bomber TB-3 - 12.7 mm DShK upgrade to 20 mm cannon

4 CP - Airplane scout.

4 CP - 37 mm Airborne gun model 1944 - armor penetration - 97 mm at a distance of 300 m - Camouflage, Rate of fire, rds / min 15-25

12 CP - IL-2 with 23 mm guns




30 Dec 2013, 07:59 AM
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avatar of Von Kluge
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Nice research, it's definately viable :)
8 Feb 2014, 03:46 AM
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+1 This sounds totally awesome.
8 Feb 2014, 04:13 AM
#4
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I like it a lot. That 37mm gun has to be the wierdest thing I've ever seen...
8 Feb 2014, 04:43 AM
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how the fuck is this doctrine balanced? don't get me wrong i like the concept and units in it but i wonder how its gonna be not gonna be OP espeically in early game.
8 Feb 2014, 04:58 AM
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Since Soviet Paratroops were armed with a more varied bunch of weapons, I'd suggest

1x DP
2x Tokarev SVT
2x PPSh-41
1x Mosin-Nagant

Option to replace the Nagant with a PTRS (the weapons marked with * would be slot items, with the DP being an undroppable slot item--this would simply require a copy of the existing slot item that can't be dropped).

Give them 1.75 armor or some such, slightly better than the norm. IIRC there were a few divisions of VVS paratroops that quite literally halted Barbarossa for a day or two (it was during one of the opening episodes of 'Soviet Storm: WWII in the East'--fascinating series).
8 Feb 2014, 15:04 PM
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And where are the Fallschirmjägers? :/
8 Feb 2014, 15:07 PM
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there were very very very few soviet paratroopers so I don't see a reason to put them in-game
8 Feb 2014, 15:36 PM
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there were very very very few soviet paratroopers so I don't see a reason to put them in-game


Well, there was still more soviet paratroopers then Ostwinds.
Not saying they should be in, just underlining that its not an argument when unit that was made in quantity of less then 50 is a stock unit.
8 Feb 2014, 15:48 PM
#10
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I believe it's easier to train 1 paratrooper than build a tank xD
8 Feb 2014, 16:44 PM
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there were very very very few soviet paratroopers so I don't see a reason to put them in-game


Soviet had the most paratroopers in WW2 actually. But most of them didnt even get paradropped to the front.

They also had ridiculous helmets, German troops thought they were fighting Pilots when fighting Soviet Paratroopers.

Anyhow i'd rather see FG42's and Fallschirmjägers. ;c
8 Feb 2014, 16:51 PM
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Soviet had the most paratroopers in WW2 actually. But most of them didnt even get paradropped to the front.

They also had ridiculous helmets, German troops thought they were fighting Pilots when fighting Soviet Paratroopers.

Anyhow i'd rather see FG42's and Fallschirmjägers. ;c


yea that's what i meant, Soviet paratroopers were used mostly in land operations than for paradrops
8 Feb 2014, 19:21 PM
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No, the whole period of the Second World War, the Red Army paratroopers applied more than the rest of the country. Paratroopers fought as regular infantry units (Battle for Kiev, the Battle of Stalingrad) and for its intended purpose. Red Army paratroopers have been used for its intended purpose more than a hundred times. They participated in large-scale landings (the battle for Moscow, battles for the Crimea, the battle for the Dnieper River, the war against Japan.) Also for kicks in the back of the retreating enemy, sabotage attacks, distracting and supporting attacks.
8 Feb 2014, 19:23 PM
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Yeah, that is what paratroopers usually do
8 Feb 2014, 19:27 PM
#15
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jump backJump back to quoted post8 Feb 2014, 04:58 AMVolsky
Since Soviet Paratroops were armed with a more varied bunch of weapons, I'd suggest

1x DP
2x Tokarev SVT
2x PPSh-41
1x Mosin-Nagant

Option to replace the Nagant with a PTRS (the weapons marked with * would be slot items, with the DP being an undroppable slot item--this would simply require a copy of the existing slot item that can't be dropped).

Give them 1.75 armor or some such, slightly better than the norm. IIRC there were a few divisions of VVS paratroops that quite literally halted Barbarossa for a day or two (it was during one of the opening episodes of 'Soviet Storm: WWII in the East'--fascinating series).

a very good idea
Yeah, that is what paratroopers usually do


Clarify. Supporting and distracting attacks usually conducted by: 1 company - Paratroopers Brigade


8 Feb 2014, 20:43 PM
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And where are the Fallschirmjägers? :/



+1! Id be for seeing paratroops from both factions as i always loved (and lost with) airborne as the US
11 Feb 2014, 18:26 PM
#17
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both factions should have paratroopers!
11 Feb 2014, 18:48 PM
#18
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jump backJump back to quoted post11 Feb 2014, 18:26 PMakula
both factions should have paratroopers!


Exactly. Besides i think both paratroopers should be equipollent.
12 Feb 2014, 18:24 PM
#19
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Very cool idea in here. +1 A unique commander for a change.
15 Feb 2014, 13:57 PM
#20
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Give me FG42's already Relic...
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