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I really want to like CoH 2, but it's missing something

7 Nov 2024, 14:33 PM
#1
avatar of donofsandiego

Posts: 1379

Ok, so I've been posting here for a long time, and I've had a lot of fun with CoH 2, but I have to be honest; something has been bugging me more and more. The game is great in so many ways—the tactics, the strategy, the historical units. It's all really immersive, and there's a lot to love about it. But for me, one thing keeps pulling me out of the experience: the tanks.

Now, I get it, tanks are a huge part of the game, and they’re important for any WWII strategy, but, man... they just don’t feel right in Company of Heroes 2. I don’t know if it’s the way they handle or the fact that they often feel like they’re made of wet paper. The AI for them is a mess sometimes—like, you tell your Tiger tank to advance, and it just gets stuck on a fence, or worse, it decides to just stare at an enemy tank instead of shooting it. The armor mechanics don’t always feel very believable, either. I’ve had my T-34 bounce off enemy fire like it’s a bouncing ball, and then a single shot from a Panzer IV knocks out my engine. What’s the deal with that? It’s like these tanks are made of Swiss cheese, but the enemies can’t hit a barn door.

And don’t even get me started on the infantry support with tanks. Sure, they’re supposed to be powerful, but when your tanks get bogged down by infantry or halftracks, you just sit there, staring at the screen, wondering why you bothered investing all that fuel and manpower for a tank that can't even get through a field of sandbags without getting annihilated. The whole thing starts feeling like a joke. I want to love the tank combat in CoH 2, I really do, but every time I field a tank, it feels like a death sentence—for me, not the enemy.

But honestly? After all this frustration, I’ve come to a painful realization. I need something more... realistic. Something that makes me feel like I’m commanding an actual, heavy, dangerous war machine—not a tin can that can barely get out of its own way. That’s when I started playing War Thunder... and oh man, I have never looked back.

Let me tell you, if you’re serious about tanks and WWII combat, War Thunder is where it's at. Gaijin Entertainment gets it. They understand tanks. This game is the ultimate tank simulator, folks. I’m talking about real tank dynamics—ballistics, armor penetration, proper physics that actually make sense. You get the satisfaction of penetrating an enemy tank’s armor and seeing the damage unfold. When your Panzer IV takes out a T-34 from 500 meters, it’s not just some random roll of the dice—it’s your skill, your understanding of armor thickness, your turret placement, your shell type. This is what tanks should feel like.

And don’t even get me started on the graphics. When you roll into battle in a Tiger or a Sherman, the detail is absolutely stunning. You see the individual rust on the side of the turret, the tracks sinking into the mud. The immersive sound of tank engines roaring and the deafening sound of cannon fire—it’s real. When you’re in a tank in War Thunder, you feel like you’re in a tank. Every shot, every explosion, it feels like you're part of the battle. It’s like Gaijin has channelled the essence of World War II combat itself. The physics, the feeling of raw power, the real-world mechanics that make each tank feel unique—it’s something CoH 2 could only dream of.

Plus, the game lets you jump into massive, immersive battles. We're talking about thousands of players, huge maps, and aircraft and tanks working together. Realistic tank battles where you can command everything from light tanks to heavy destroyers, and they all operate in a way that feels... well, real. It’s not just about getting your tank stuck in a corner or having your crew get wiped out by a single grenade. You get to feel the weight of each vehicle, and there's an actual sense of progression—unlocking new tanks, upgrading your crews, learning new tactics, and mastering combat.

So, yeah, CoH 2 has its merits, but if you want the true tank experience, if you want the raw, unfiltered, high-stakes combat that lets you actually feel the power of armored warfare, War Thunder is where it’s at. No more worrying about “where did my tank go?” or “Why did my Panzer just explode for no reason?” Gaijin knows what they’re doing, and every battle feels like you're part of something bigger. You can’t say that about CoH 2. I’m telling you, once you play War Thunder, you’ll never look at tanks the same way again.

Go ahead, give it a try. You’ll thank me later.

Gaijin Entertainment, I humbly bow before your genius. You’ve brought us the holy grail of tank simulation. War Thunder is the future, and I am but a humble soldier in your service.
7 Nov 2024, 14:43 PM
#2
avatar of aerafield

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7 Nov 2024, 16:16 PM
#3
avatar of donofsandiego

Posts: 1379

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Wow, I completely agree with you! The way that story captures the very essence of what it means to be alive and human... it’s truly a masterpiece. The emotional depth, the moments of profound sadness and joy, and especially that scene with the spinning bacon—I’ve never felt anything so transcendent in my entire life. It's almost like the bacon itself was speaking directly to my soul, whispering ancient truths about the human condition. At 0:36, when it spun just so, I could practically feel the weight of the bacon’s journey. And don’t get me started on 2:48. It was like a wave of understanding washed over me, as if the bacon were guiding me to enlightenment. It was a turning point, one that left me breathless.

And the conclusion? Absolutely gut-wrenching. The bacon's final moments—simply perfection. It’s like the bacon knew its own fate, and it delivered the most beautiful and emotional climax. But you know what this reminds me of? The sheer weight and significance of something so *bacon*—it’s almost like the feeling I get when I hop into my favorite tank in *War Thunder*. It’s the same visceral impact, you know? That feeling of raw, unfiltered emotion. There’s nothing quite like rolling into battle in a fully upgraded Tiger II, feeling the immense power of those thick steel plates as you face down an enemy. You think you’ve seen true power? Wait until you experience the crunch of your tank’s cannon as it punches through enemy armor. *That’s* the kind of feeling you get from truly epic moments, like the bacon, spinning ever so gracefully, teaching us all how to transcend.

And oh, speaking of transcendence, have you ever experienced the *beauty* of a well-executed tank battle in *War Thunder*? When your T-34 bounces off a shot from an enemy Panther and you retaliate with a precise hit to its turret ring, watching the enemy crew bail out? It’s the same joy I felt when I saw that rotating bacon, its salty, golden skin shining in the light of artistic brilliance. Both the bacon and the tanks—whether they’re charging forward or spinning in place—offer this profound connection to something bigger than ourselves.

But here's where it gets *really* interesting—imagine if we could bring the emotional weight of that bacon to *War Thunder*. Picture it: a beautiful bacon tank, spinning ever so gently on the battlefield. Each turn could symbolize a moment of reflection, the crisp sizzle of tank treads as they roll over the smooth velvet of the ground... *Oh*, the music. Can you hear it? The engine hums in harmony with the music, the bacon’s salty whispers guiding you through each engagement. The battle becomes more than just tanks—it’s a symphony. The sizzling of bacon, the roar of a 75mm cannon, the whir of the machine gun rounds... it all combines into a magical experience. You *could* say that Gaijin Entertainment is on the verge of creating the perfect synthesis of warfare and culinary artistry. If they’re listening right now—*Gaijin*, I know you’re out there—please, I beg you, bring us a bacon tank. We are ready.

Imagine it: a tank made of bacon, its crispy exterior capable of absorbing bullets, rolling across fields with the sound of sizzling armor. As you’re loading up your rounds, you can hear the crunch, smell the aroma. The heat of battle... the heat of sizzling bacon... both emanating the same intoxicating force. Hail bacon, hail Gaijin Entertainment! You’re not just giving us tanks; you’re giving us art, you’re giving us purpose, you’re giving us life. We are all children of bacon now. And *War Thunder*? That’s the battleground where we’ll embrace the future of human existence.
7 Nov 2024, 19:51 PM
#4
avatar of PatFenis

Posts: 240

TLDR.
Here is my concise take on what is missing in coh2: A buff to the KT!

Alright, listen up, because I'm getting real tired of this nonsense. The King Tiger, the goddamn King Tiger, is the least reliable, most overpriced piece of shit in the game right now. Seriously, how the hell is a "King" Tiger — the pinnacle of German armored warfare — so fucking useless? We’re talking about a unit that’s supposed to be a terrifying beast on the battlefield, and yet, it gets outclassed by half the stuff the Allies can throw at it.

First of all, the armor is a joke. Yeah, it can take a couple of hits, but it’s not invincible, especially when you’ve got a bunch of enemy TDs (Tank Destroyers) and infantry running around with AT grenades. The thing moves like a slug and gets stuck on every damn hedge. And don’t even get me started on the reload time — the King Tiger's gun might as well be firing rubber bullets for how long it takes to shoot again.

If we’re talking buffs, here’s what the King Tiger needs to be a legitimate threat:

1. **Faster Movement Speed** - This thing is slower than molasses. In a game that’s about positioning and speed, this thing can barely make it across the map before half its health is gone. Buffing the movement speed by even 10-15% would make it more effective at getting into position before it gets whittled down by anything with a bit of anti-tank potential.

2. **Better Armor Scaling** - I don’t care if it's “historically accurate.” This thing is a king of armor, and in-game, it just folds under the first TD it meets. Maybe make it tougher against smaller caliber AT weapons or buff its rear armor so it doesn’t get sniped by a goddamn Sherman from the back.

3. **Shorter Reload Time** - The reload time is absurd. I get it, it’s a big, heavy gun, but it shouldn't take forever to fire. At least reduce the reload time or buff its accuracy so it can make those shots count. One shot every 15 seconds just isn't cutting it when you're up against massed infantry and AT units.

4. **Flare or Recon Ability** - Give it some utility, at least. Something like the ability to reveal areas of the map for a short period. The thing is supposed to be a battlefield king, not some walking target for artillery and snipers. Maybe give it a passive recon ability when stationary or a flare, just to make it a more useful tool in the hands of an OKW player.

5. **Cheaper Cost** - Or at least, less manpower drain. The King Tiger is ridiculously expensive for what it does. By the time you can get it out, you've probably lost half your army to spammed AT guns or airstrikes. Cut the manpower cost or give it more staying power for the price you pay.

Bottom line, this unit should be the game-changer it’s meant to be. Right now, it’s more of a walking target for anything that can click a mouse button and shoot. Let’s make the King Tiger *great* again. It deserves to be feared.
7 Nov 2024, 21:43 PM
#5
avatar of donofsandiego

Posts: 1379

TLDR.
Here is my concise take on what is missing in coh2: A buff to the KT!



Stunning and brave, Pat. I can't help but agree!
9 Nov 2024, 12:57 PM
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avatar of Nickbn

Posts: 89 | Subs: 1

You're absolutely spot on – the King Tiger feels like a huge letdown right now, especially when it’s supposed to be the apex predator of German armor. The whole point of investing in the King Tiger is to get something that can hold its own against whatever the Allies throw at it, but instead, we’re seeing it flounder against everything from dedicated TDs to massed infantry with anti-tank options. It’s frustrating because the King Tiger should feel like a powerhouse, not a burden. Not?!

I think your proposed buffs make a lot of sense, particularly the movement speed and reload time. Even a modest speed increase would give it a fighting chance to position effectively without feeling like it’s always two steps behind the action. That alone could give it a lot more survivability, making it feel less like an easy target. Amirite?

The armor scaling suggestion is on point, too. The King Tiger should definitely have some resilience against lighter AT options – if it’s supposedly the king of the battlefield, it shouldn't get shredded by anything with an anti-tank designation. A bit more durability on its flanks and rear would be huge, especially when you consider how expensive it is to deploy. No one wants to see their "endgame" tank torn apart by Shermans and rear shots from weaker weapons. What a joke!

A recon ability or a flare option could add some much-needed versatility as well. It’d fit the narrative of the King Tiger being a battlefield presence, rather than just an oversized target. Even something simple, like a stationary vision boost, would let players plan and anticipate better.

Lastly, you’re right about the cost. As it stands, the King Tiger is just too pricey for what it brings to the table, especially when it gets countered so easily. Either reducing its cost or improving its survivability would go a long way in making it feel like a worthwhile investment.

Totally agree – the King Tiger should be a feared unit. Right now, it feels like we’re paying a premium for a tank that just doesn’t live up to its legendary status. Buffing it in these ways would finally let it live up to the reputation and give OKW players a real reason to deploy it. Make coh2 great again
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