Login

russian armor

sniper idea

27 Nov 2022, 19:27 PM
#41
avatar of donofsandiego

Posts: 866

jump backJump back to quoted post27 Nov 2022, 17:55 PMLooney
Making it get supressed when under fire is a great idea. Though thinking about it... hopefully LVs won't be able to supress it, they would absolute destroy snipers if that were the case lol.


Very true. Dang.
28 Nov 2022, 19:06 PM
#42
avatar of Esxile

Posts: 3506 | Subs: 1

Make the sniper unable to fire if he has less than 90% health, he is wounded thus can't snipe.
28 Nov 2022, 20:18 PM
#43
avatar of Vipper

Posts: 13376 | Subs: 1

jump backJump back to quoted post28 Nov 2022, 19:06 PMEsxile
Make the sniper unable to fire if he has less than 90% health, he is wounded thus can't snipe.

That would create a huge imbalance for snipers since different faction have different healing capabilities in the front line.
29 Nov 2022, 02:06 AM
#44
avatar of donofsandiego

Posts: 866

jump backJump back to quoted post28 Nov 2022, 20:18 PMVipper

That would create a huge imbalance for snipers since different faction have different healing capabilities in the front line.


Easy. Give all snipers medkits. Nothing could possibly go wrong.
29 Nov 2022, 22:34 PM
#45
avatar of KoRneY

Posts: 643



Easy. Give all snipers medkits. Nothing could possibly go wrong.


Super easy

Or he can turn into an engineer and repair things because his injuries are simply too great
30 Nov 2022, 13:28 PM
#46
avatar of OKSpitfire

Posts: 127

Fuck it. Command and Conquer Red Alert style Tanya/Boris unit. What could go wrong.
30 Nov 2022, 19:35 PM
#47
avatar of rumartinez89

Posts: 591

Fuck it. Command and Conquer Red Alert style Tanya/Boris unit. What could go wrong.


Just give it a 2 sec set up call it firing position, can’t move only fire. Has a 2 sec tear down just like MG so even if you spam retreat it is guaranteed to take some damage from everything except maybe rear echelons.
30 Nov 2022, 19:43 PM
#48
avatar of Rosbone
Senior Mapmaker Badge

Posts: 1809 | Subs: 3

Give it a range of 5 more meters but have almost no health. A strong fart would kill it.
30 Nov 2022, 21:31 PM
#49
avatar of Looney
Patrion 14

Posts: 444



Just give it a 2 sec set up call it firing position, can’t move only fire. Has a 2 sec tear down just like MG so even if you spam retreat it is guaranteed to take some damage from everything except maybe rear echelons.


The tear down idea is super interesting. Increase the range, nerf the rof and give it the cone vision.
It's like an infantry pak43 that can't shoot through buildings.

If you leave it behind without support, it's pretty vulnerable to flanks.
1 Dec 2022, 10:05 AM
#50
avatar of OKSpitfire

Posts: 127

jump backJump back to quoted post30 Nov 2022, 21:31 PMLooney


The tear down idea is super interesting. Increase the range, nerf the rof and give it the cone vision.
It's like an infantry pak43 that can't shoot through buildings.

If you leave it behind without support, it's pretty vulnerable to flanks.


If they ended up being percieved as 'bad' due to the rate of fire nerf, perhaps they could have a bit more supression worked into their kit, instead of it being gated by an ability/munitions. Though i dunno, i could see that being quite oppressive if its done wrong, just an idea.
1 Dec 2022, 11:32 AM
#51
avatar of rumartinez89

Posts: 591

jump backJump back to quoted post30 Nov 2022, 21:31 PMLooney


The tear down idea is super interesting. Increase the range, nerf the rof and give it the cone vision.
It's like an infantry pak43 that can't shoot through buildings.

If you leave it behind without support, it's pretty vulnerable to flanks.


I would leave the ROF alone and work from there. As it would be a total of 4 secs to pack and unpack the unit will die if caught off guard or misclick which is extremely punishing which can get pulled off quite easily depending on faction or commander choice.

USF- Paths in cloak plus vision just have to wait for sniper to set up and will get the kill. M20 will get the kill as it has extra 2 secs to get some damage in before the sniper starts running.

Soviets - Counter snipe, scout car, partisans would be great at this as they can move while in cover

OST - Counter snipe, 222, cloak ability, stormtroopers have a bit more time to try and do damage

OKW - JLI same as Paths, 221, kubel would be a bit more consistent, falls

UKF - counter snipe, car, commandos

For a lot of the factions, diving your LV will be worth it and it would work as an indirect buff to a lot of the cloaking units.
1 Dec 2022, 17:26 PM
#52
avatar of Looney
Patrion 14

Posts: 444



If they ended up being percieved as 'bad' due to the rate of fire nerf, perhaps they could have a bit more supression worked into their kit, instead of it being gated by an ability/munitions. Though i dunno, i could see that being quite oppressive if its done wrong, just an idea.


Looking at Rumatinez reply I would for sure leave rof the same as it is. Supression dealt if it had lower rof would be cool though yeah. Getting shot at by a sniper would definitly force you to prone lol.



I would leave the ROF alone and work from there. As it would be a total of 4 secs to pack and unpack the unit will die if caught off guard or misclick which is extremely punishing which can get pulled off quite easily depending on faction or commander choice.

USF- Paths in cloak plus vision just have to wait for sniper to set up and will get the kill. M20 will get the kill as it has extra 2 secs to get some damage in before the sniper starts running.

Soviets - Counter snipe, scout car, partisans would be great at this as they can move while in cover

OST - Counter snipe, 222, cloak ability, stormtroopers have a bit more time to try and do damage

OKW - JLI same as Paths, 221, kubel would be a bit more consistent, falls

UKF - counter snipe, car, commandos

For a lot of the factions, diving your LV will be worth it and it would work as an indirect buff to a lot of the cloaking units.


You're right, rof should stay the same for sure. Thinking about it, after the first shot any good player would just avoid the sniper's line of fire. Would be such a fun unit to play with.

1 Dec 2022, 17:44 PM
#53
avatar of OKSpitfire

Posts: 127

jump backJump back to quoted post1 Dec 2022, 17:26 PMLooney


Looking at Rumatinez reply I would for sure leave rof the same as it is. Supression dealt if it had lower rof would be cool though yeah. Getting shot at by a sniper would definitly force you to prone lol.



Yeah, i do like the idea of them dealing very long range supression but with much, much slower ability to rack up kills, but i understand that it could be a nightmare to balance. Maybe not even suppression, squads that've been hit could maybe take a slight penalty to their accuracy for a small duration, just to simulate that the squad knows they are being lined up and therefore need to be cautious. Maybe the sniper could even NOT have a 100% chance to hit the target every time.

Bit of a pipedream... Some interesting ideas here though. I wonder if they'll just end up being exactly the same in the third game. Hopefully not.
3 Dec 2022, 11:11 AM
#54
avatar of TickTack

Posts: 577

so I like the sound of vision cone, as well as being more static (e.g. 'firing mode' vs 'hold fire' and locked in place when firing).
Stealth is important for this unit so it should stay. That would turn it into a turret unit, which is fine I guess...

But I prefer rebranding them to have more like support unit power levels, e.g. pathfinders; but with high health damage and reduced crit, instead of being locked into a cone. They could be made more survivable too.

But both of these options suck compared to the beautiful sniper as it is now. <444>3
So it'd need to keep its high impact feeling, I love the kill counts they get.

(I'm only top 600 sov 1v1 if anyone is wondering).
1 user is browsing this thread: 1 guest

Livestreams

New Zealand 13

Ladders Top 10

  • #
    Steam Alias
    W
    L
    %
    Streak
Data provided by Relic Relic Entertainment

Replay highlight

VS
  • U.S. Forces flag shadics ARG.
  • U.S. Forces flag TüMe
  • Ostheer flag The101stAirBorne
  • Ostheer flag Clororaa
uploaded by TüMe

Board Info

266 users are online: 1 member and 265 guests
The amazing Chandler
10 posts in the last 24h
81 posts in the last week
836 posts in the last month
Registered members: 37760
Welcome our newest member, thebookroom
Most online: 1221 users on 25 Feb 2020, 12:03 PM