The JPIV gets further reload bonuses at vet 4. The units having to rotate before firing also doesn't make the JPIV's firerate less of an advantage. You are putting more shells downrange regardless.
And vet 4-5 is the trade mark of OKW.
SU-85 gets x80% reload bonus at 7160 XP while JP get x90% at 8600 and need to get to 10750 to get x76.5%.
In sort having to wait 3.000 XP to get 3.5% better bonus is not as great as you trying to present it.
Which is a difference of between 2-7% in terms of enemy accuracy against the vehicle. That isnt insignificant.
(I will not even bother to ask how you got those numbers)
And if even there is a 2-7% difference, there about 50% chance of scoring a collision making the difference even less important.
And the other half of the time you get +25% Accuracy, Penetration, and Damage.
All of these things matter.
Nope, JP does not get a first strike bonus until it get to vet 5. Cloak is bugged and should generally be avoided.
Do me a favour and divide the numbers 800 and 1040 by 160 and 208. You may notice a startling difference in the results (Of which there will be four.)
"Heat rounds" gives 30% damage bonus (+30% penetration) and SU-85 has access to mark vehicles for 35% bonus (and cloak for +20% accuracy, +20% penetration, +25% reload speed from vet 0).
So heat are good but again not enough to justified the price difference (not that "HEAT rounds should actually have an impact on the price of JP to begin with)
Because you already have a strong AT option? I'm not sure that really follows.
The mobility difference is far less relevant than the extra health or armour of the JP4.
I have clearly said that penetration of the SU-85 over weight the armor.
I personally would have not issue exchanging the 160 HP for 20% penetration SU-85 gets.
The SU-85s gun is also worse relative to the Jagdpanzer given Axis nondoctrinal units' higher armour. Without vet 2 the SU-85 can bounce against some axis nondoctrinal vehicles, whereas the Jagdpanzer cannot. Even after vet 2 the SU-85 can STILL bounce against vetted Panthers and Brummbar, (And obviously the KT) while the Jagdpanzer continues to pen everything and fires more quickly to boot.
It's only when you start talking about doctrinal units that the SU-85's increased pen matters.
Simply false JP bounce on Comet/Churchills and doctrinal unit are used allot.
If some is facing allied mediums one is better of building an PzIV j that is cheaper, can counter them and has great AI.
A: Why is "Advantages" in quotation marks? These are undeniable advantages that the JPIV has.
B: I don't see the JP requiring nerfing and the price reducing.
So you do not want to answer simple question.