of couse it would be stupid, but it is a fact.
You back tech t2 - buy zis gun = delay T-70 ALOT.
PTRS Penals and Soviet vs Ostheer balance
23 Jun 2021, 07:43 AM
#61
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23 Jun 2021, 12:03 PM
#63
Posts: 2243
you wanna see how great penals are?
Look here:
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1064354797?t=1h15m20s
i made around 50k dmg with them.
they made the game...overall i had nearly 100k dmg done.
Look here:
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1064354797?t=1h15m20s
i made around 50k dmg with them.
they made the game...overall i had nearly 100k dmg done.
23 Jun 2021, 14:11 PM
#64
Posts: 1302
That is one of the most stupidest things I'v heard.
I'm glad you agree. Now hopefully you understand why nobody does it.
"And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?..The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and... the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough...We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn , The Gulag Archipelago 1918–1956
24 Jun 2021, 11:13 AM
#67
Posts: 1515
you wanna see how great penals are?
Look here:
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1064354797?t=1h15m20s
i made around 50k dmg with them.
they made the game...overall i had nearly 100k dmg done.
4v4 with 1000+ ranks. No sh** you'll do a lot of dmg. Unit preservation is not a thing in that mode. You didn't really do anything special
How much wood could a woodchuck chuck, if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
https://coh2stats.com/players/76561198031032150
https://coh2stats.com/players/76561198031032150
24 Jun 2021, 17:32 PM
#68
Posts: 578
4v4 noob blobbers complaining about ptrs being too strong and happily ignoring what happens when 4 t34s slam their mg42, or conversely, when 3 stukas hit their mortar pit...
Lol who cares about context right?!
People scraping the bottom of the effluent barrel in this thread. Trolls as usual.
Lol who cares about context right?!
People scraping the bottom of the effluent barrel in this thread. Trolls as usual.
It's Relic's responsibility.
1 Jul 2021, 04:55 AM
#69
Posts: 369
When was last time you've destroyed a tank using ONLY mines or AT nades?
.
All the time? 2 Riegels on top of each other deals with any medium I have seen.
1 Jul 2021, 16:28 PM
#73
Posts: 1594
What kind of clown rank games you play for that to be a thing or actually work?
Why wouldn't it work? Even at high levels/ranks vehicles still trip mines occasionally, especially USF vehicles if they lose their RE early on.
Whether or not it's reliable enough for the cost/risk involved is another question.
1 Jul 2021, 20:05 PM
#74
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Why wouldn't it work? Even at high levels/ranks vehicles still trip mines occasionally, especially USF vehicles if they lose their RE early on.
Whether or not it's reliable enough for the cost/risk involved is another question.
Because.... people don't just a-move vehicle and leave it be, they'll react and retreat instantly, instead of trying to crawl forward couple of meters to roll over another mine, plus sweepers are a thing.
But then again, its some clown rank where it works for you, but I wouldn't consider something effective with assumption that opponent is literally braindead.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
15 Jul 2021, 09:25 AM
#75
Posts: 177
penal already lost their AI power when you got PTRS upgareded.
penal with ptrs vet 3 vs gren with mg42 vet 3.
penal will lose 100%
penal with ptrs vet 3 vs gren with mg42 vet 3.
penal will lose 100%
15 Jul 2021, 14:31 PM
#76
Posts: 1594
Because.... people don't just a-move vehicle and leave it be, they'll react and retreat instantly, instead of trying to crawl forward couple of meters to roll over another mine, plus sweepers are a thing.
But then again, its some clown rank where it works for you, but I wouldn't consider something effective with assumption that opponent is literally braindead.
People are going to react instantaneously to having hit a mine, and instantaneously begin to reverse without ever moving forward a couple more meters? They're ALWAYS going to have the vehicle selected, and not be moving infantry simultaneously to support it when it hits the mine?
They're going to do this while also contending with the inherent input lag of CoH2?
They're going to reliably do this every single time they hit a mine, without fail?
Rather optimistic.
15 Jul 2021, 16:48 PM
#77
Posts: 290
Only thing for russians I would like to change is make them tech up like Ostheer have to do, that way they can't instant do clown cars. One of the things that soviets always needed to be readjusted is the ability to have from the beginning both building options for their engineer, they don't need this advantage.
15 Jul 2021, 20:42 PM
#78
Posts: 772
Even if ptrs penals are on par with DPS compared to other AT infantry, it still lacks burst damage that shrecks and zooks have. Even with more consistent damage vs light vehicles (they are quite accurate), they still are not threatening. They can be very useful during dives, because of satchel, but that's all.
Personally I use PTRS only with Guards. Penals is too good of a combat unit to give it such weapon as PTRS for reasons listed above. If they had zooks or shreks, that would have been another story.
Personally I use PTRS only with Guards. Penals is too good of a combat unit to give it such weapon as PTRS for reasons listed above. If they had zooks or shreks, that would have been another story.
15 Jul 2021, 21:00 PM
#79
Posts: 2243
it was a dumb/ ally biased idea to give ptrs penals no aim time.
they dont even need 0,2 sec to after running to shot over 45 range (more than other at handheld) and will hit mostly everytime
they dont even need 0,2 sec to after running to shot over 45 range (more than other at handheld) and will hit mostly everytime
15 Jul 2021, 22:21 PM
#80
Posts: 772
it was a dumb/ ally biased idea to give ptrs penals no aim time.
they dont even need 0,2 sec to after running to shot over 45 range (more than other at handheld) and will hit mostly everytime
I don't think ptrs penals overshoot. At least have not seen a single overshot with a penal squad, while could with Guards, but it was definitely not 'hit mostly everytime' type of situation. And the amount of damage and penetration ptrs has at far range is hardly enough to be a problem. Zooks and shreks weren't a problem, then why ptrs' are?
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