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What is the solution to jaeger spam, both with OKW and OST

16 May 2021, 12:11 PM
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Hi, so i recently came back into the game, and im having real issues dealing with massed jaeger spams that snipe my infantry into half health before they are in range, and faust my vehicles/insta retreat, making them nearly unkillable. No one else is apparently noticing this so its probably something im doing... advice?
16 May 2021, 12:35 PM
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So you are talking about G43 spam with grens or fusiliers I assume? All of those squads are close-mid range specialists, so you are best to engage them from longer distances as much as possible: attack-move order; LMGs like M1919 or bren for your inf.

Support your infantry with HMGs in the background so the G43 squads cannot close the distance

16 May 2021, 13:04 PM
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There's actually no "best solution" so bait them into mg. Or use sniper/lv/med tank to bleed mp out. I'm assuming its for team games as its stupid to blob that unit in 1v1. Commandos can work I mean they counter every infantry to exist anyway. Or any anti blob tactics.
16 May 2021, 13:15 PM
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avatar of Imperial Nedcoat

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So you are talking about G43 spam with grens or fusiliers I assume? All of those squads are close-mid range specialists, so you are best to engage them from longer distances as much as possible: attack-move order; LMGs like M1919 or bren for your inf.

Support your infantry with HMGs in the background so the G43 squads cannot close the distance



is that really the case??, id thought it was a big long range buff as they make the sniper sound effect, and plonking sections,cons or penals behind cover doesnt seem to help (i dont really play USF). Tanks i find lacklustre as both grens and fusilier have snares, and with fusilier 1 or 2 shreks mixed in make short work of my mediums. Mgs work but they only buy a very brief respite and the retreat and recycle time seems very quick so not much ground can be made. Both have grenades so they are very good flankers as well. A blob of 3 fusiliers or grens will usually pick off 2/3 models before 1 can be taken in response. Commandos i guess would work but that is kind of restrictive. (also vet 5 fusiliers are damn near invincible, and they vet fast)
16 May 2021, 14:21 PM
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is that really the case??, id thought it was a big long range buff as they make the sniper sound effect


yeah.... unfortunately the G43 in CoH2 has been implemented very poorly by Relic from a "player communication" standpoint.

There is only a scoped G43 variant in coh2, yet they can have completely different weapon profiles. On Snipers and Jaeger Light Infantry (OKW), it is a longrange snipe weapon that cant be used on the move. On Grens, Panzergrens and Fusiliers it is a close-mid range weapon that has excellent accuracy on the move. Yet there is no visual info to communicate this to the player.


You are by far not the only person who thought that the G43 is a longrange-upgrade on Grens, Pgrens and Fusiliers



Both have grenades so they are very good flankers as well. A blob of 3 fusiliers or grens will usually pick off 2/3 models before 1 can be taken in response. Commandos i guess would work but that is kind of restrictive. (also vet 5 fusiliers are damn near invincible, and they vet fast)


Nah I would not recommend commandos at all. As I said, try to use longrange units and the "attack move" order as much as possible so these units will stop moving, and shoot as soon as possible. And use LMGs as much as possible.

If it's a map with many sightblockers (where longrange units scale poorly), you have to do the same like the enemy unfortunately and spam close-mid range units. SVT cons for example with MG support
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