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Remove counter-barrage.

16 Jan 2021, 11:10 AM
#83
avatar of Elaindil

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jump backJump back to quoted post16 Jan 2021, 08:54 AMVipper

If you have trouble dealing with Lefh let me give a tip. Use a reckon sweep and off map.


Come to think of that, kinda unfair that Allies need doctrine measures to counter howitzers, while Lefh give you the whole package without requiring any help, don't you think?
16 Jan 2021, 11:14 AM
#84
avatar of Katitof

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Come to think of that, kinda unfair that Allies need doctrine measures to counter howitzers, while Lefh give you the whole package without requiring any help, don't you think?

Umm....
How do I break it to you....
Lefh....
Is doctrinal....
16 Jan 2021, 11:58 AM
#86
avatar of Elaindil

Posts: 97

jump backJump back to quoted post16 Jan 2021, 11:14 AMKatitof

Umm....
How do I break it to you....
Lefh....
Is doctrinal....


How do I break it you... If you pick it you automatically get to counter enemy arty. While if you pick arty doctrine with allies, you don't have such luxury.
16 Jan 2021, 12:59 PM
#87
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Posts: 1460

jump backJump back to quoted post16 Jan 2021, 11:14 AMKatitof

Umm....
How do I break it to you....
Lefh....
Is doctrinal....


I think what he means is that LeFH is a much safer choice and can be chosen early on because with it, you have an answer to any sort of indirect, with minimal input, while the ally commanders have to specifically wait to see if there is a LeFH on the field to get an offmap. Besides, LeFH is in strong commanders, which further amplifies it's usage.
16 Jan 2021, 13:01 PM
#88
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I think what he means is that LeFH is a much safer choice and can be chosen early on because with it, you have an answer to any sort of indirect, with minimal input, while the ally commanders have to specifically wait to see if there is a LeFH on the field to get an offmap. Besides, LeFH is in strong commanders, which further amplifies it's usage.

Lefh is no way safer choice than Priest, Sexton, Calliope actually both SPG commanders can kill with off map or with barrage once it location is known.
16 Jan 2021, 16:24 PM
#89
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jump backJump back to quoted post16 Jan 2021, 13:01 PMVipper

Lefh is no way safer choice than Priest, Sexton, Calliope actually both SPG commanders can kill with off map or with barrage once it location is known.

There's a difference between needing to combine multiple abilities and one doing it all. That's the issue. Set and forget is bad
16 Jan 2021, 17:17 PM
#90
avatar of Stug life

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There's a difference between needing to combine multiple abilities and one doing it all. That's the issue. Set and forget is bad
yea it should be made more micro intensive, like an mg or a at gun

make it so u can only set up CB in an area 2-3 time the barrage size or an angle like with a at guns

16 Jan 2021, 17:46 PM
#91
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Posts: 1201


There's a difference between needing to combine multiple abilities and one doing it all. That's the issue. Set and forget is bad

No no no its balanced

16 Jan 2021, 18:00 PM
#92
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No no no its balanced
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/597/354/bca.jpg
try the insert img button
16 Jan 2021, 18:08 PM
#93
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try the insert img button

Remember micro is for noobs
16 Jan 2021, 18:10 PM
#94
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Allies butthurt over axis has one trumph in the arty war. gg wp
16 Jan 2021, 18:20 PM
#95
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lol whine about LefH, where B4 is much more worse to play against with it's one shot wiping ability.
16 Jan 2021, 19:02 PM
#96
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Posts: 573

jump backJump back to quoted post16 Jan 2021, 18:20 PMThamor
lol whine about LefH, where B4 is much more worse to play against with it's one shot wiping ability.


If only half of axis commanders didnt have some combinations of recon and offmaps, especially meta ones...
16 Jan 2021, 19:03 PM
#97
avatar of Vipper

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There's a difference between needing to combine multiple abilities and one doing it all. That's the issue. Set and forget is bad

You mean like calling a stock reckon plane and obliterating a Lefh with TOT?
16 Jan 2021, 19:37 PM
#98
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jump backJump back to quoted post16 Jan 2021, 19:03 PMVipper

You mean like calling a stock reckon plane and obliterating a Lefh with TOT?

Yes. That IS different than all enemy's indirect fire basically destroying itself.
16 Jan 2021, 20:04 PM
#99
avatar of Vipper

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Yes. That IS different than all enemy's indirect fire basically destroying itself.

It is different but it is very difficult to pull.
16 Jan 2021, 23:05 PM
#100
avatar of Katitof

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Remember guys, fire and forget abilities are bad for the game, but only if they are on allies side, you know, like counter barrage that used to work exactly like axis version does, but was deemed to OP to stay like that and was changed into resource consuming, active ability CB should become.
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