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Raketens should lose their received accuracy bonus

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3 May 2020, 15:53 PM
#41
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Special discount only for red units.


Good I don't work with at a till :/ I meant 540. Hope it is correct this time :). You need 100mp more to buy 2 paks or 2 zises. Anyway, imo you should leave the unit as it is possibly increasing its price.
3 May 2020, 16:07 PM
#42
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I meant 540. Hope it is correct this time :).


Still not correct, the price of a Raketen nowadays is 290 manpower. The price was increased when it was reworked.
3 May 2020, 16:15 PM
#43
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Still not correct, the price of a Raketen nowadays is 290 manpower. The price was increased when it was reworked.

Ups. I stand corrected. Have to come back to OKW. So it seems the price is fine and it is a decently balanced AT unit, and it is unique - really nice when it comes to not cloning units from one faction to another. Maybe just cosmetics like plus 10-20 manpower more but I wouldn't change the rak much at its current state when it comes to its stats.
4 May 2020, 06:32 AM
#44
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I really don't see the reason why raks should be cheaper than most AT guns. Ambushing tanks with them through putting them almost on the frontline is still much easier than with other at guns. You risk much less because of the retreat. Their effective range may be longer than 60 range at guns due to this. So, if anything, the price could be increased to make sure that double/triple AT ambushes are equally expensive for most factions. Still, the balance level is really good and the change could possibly be really small like 10 manpower at a time.
4 May 2020, 09:50 AM
#45
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Price is not a problem, forgiveness for being overextended vs infantry is.
4 May 2020, 10:00 AM
#46
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Rak is just too cheap for what you get. 2 raks can be really deadly with their increased range and larger crews, plus the retreat. Yet, they cost only 440mp.


Too cheap for a T0 AT gun... well ok

jump backJump back to quoted post4 May 2020, 09:50 AMEsxile
Price is not a problem, forgiveness for being overextended vs infantry is.



Like every SU weapon Team with its 2000+ people and merch if that is not enough!



the issue is that flanking isn't always possible. You get put on lane maps like red ball and minsk pocket and poltawa and cry in a corner.


oh no maybe than u have to use ure brain to get "around" this strength of your enemy.
USF has the most arty options in game... so pls if ur are not able to deal with the worst Pak in the game pls delete! btw idk want u want? just running wild with USF supreme inf an shred everthing with jacksons..

4 May 2020, 15:11 PM
#47
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oh no maybe than u have to use ure brain to get "around" this strength of your enemy.
USF has the most arty options in game... so pls if ur are not able to deal with the worst Pak in the game pls delete! btw idk want u want? just running wild with USF supreme inf an shred everthing with jacksons..


Don't get toxic with me. It's pretty clear what I stated previously; swap the calliope and the scott and then nerf the calliope a bit.
4 May 2020, 16:13 PM
#48
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Don't get toxic with me. It's pretty clear what I stated previously; swap the calliope and the scott and then nerf the calliope a bit.


Sry, but idk what that should do? scott is 100 Times better than calli.
especially agasint raks. sometimes u get 2shotted.

so pls calliop stock, from my point of view this would be a nerf.
4 May 2020, 16:29 PM
#49
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so pls calliop stock, from my point of view this would be a nerf.


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4 May 2020, 18:11 PM
#50
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so pls calliop stock, from my point of view this would be a nerf.


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4 May 2020, 18:20 PM
#51
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M4 and BAR rifles. Git gud.


you act like shermans are wunderwaffle panzers.. the HE is so gardening inconsistent..
4 May 2020, 18:30 PM
#52
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you act like shermans are wunderwaffle panzers.. the HE is so gardening inconsistent..


4 May 2020, 18:35 PM
#53
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gj, you played vs some noobs and :hansRNG: was on your side. im using the sherman often aswell, as usf doesnt really have much else to offer, but i dont remember ever having something nearly as effective as seen in the video..
4 May 2020, 18:38 PM
#54
avatar of Stormjäger

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gj, you played vs some noobs


Well I got to rank 187 usf in 3s after that game. Not gonna pretend like it was challenging or anything, they were near 200 give or take like 30 if memory serves, I'm 72 usf in 1v1s and 58 Ost in 3v3s so I could probably get top 30 usf if I tried. My stance on the M4 hasn't changed at all, I still think it's the best medium tank once it gets its dozer.

What's your USF rank in 3s? You were pretty quick to say I played vs noobs.
4 May 2020, 20:24 PM
#55
avatar of SkysTheLimit

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Inline just give it a copy of the USF at gun, then I wanna see people calling rak op.amd asking for nerf


You gonna lock it behind one of OKWs tiers too?

Your idea is terrible, not even a good idea as trolling
4 May 2020, 20:35 PM
#56
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He missed a couple shot agains those 2 volksquads behind a sandbag.

M4A3 is trash man! /s
4 May 2020, 20:50 PM
#57
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you act like shermans are wunderwaffle panzers.. the HE is so gardening inconsistent..

Did cod guy get an alt account?
5 May 2020, 04:14 AM
#58
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jump backJump back to quoted post3 May 2020, 05:23 AMKoRneY


Unfortunately they can't prioritize vehicles in garrisons so they are likely to waste shots on less than ideal targets


Easy to Fix though
5 May 2020, 04:43 AM
#59
avatar of FelixTHM

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you act like shermans are wunderwaffle panzers.. the HE is so gardening inconsistent..



It has 4.0 AOE compared to 2.5 on the P4.
5 May 2020, 05:09 AM
#60
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Medium tanks are not a counter to AT guns

I don't know why people are using the Sherman as a counter, even the Scott struggles vs ATGs and one mistake and you're up in flames.

Sherman is not a brumbar or AVRE
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