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6 Feb 2020, 11:08 AM
#701
avatar of SupremeStefan

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jump backJump back to quoted post6 Feb 2020, 09:29 AMVipper

On another issue.
Is Croc going to stay at CP9?

What's wrong with that? Even panzer4 can handle it. The issue is heavy generalist rush.
6 Feb 2020, 11:40 AM
#702
avatar of Vipper

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What's wrong with that? Even panzer4 can handle it. The issue is heavy generalist rush.

PLS stop writing things that are simply false. A PzIV will lose to a Croc.

In addition stop making assumptions the post you quoted is a simple question.
6 Feb 2020, 12:19 PM
#703
avatar of SupremeStefan

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jump backJump back to quoted post6 Feb 2020, 11:40 AMVipper

PLS stop writing things that are simply false. A PzIV will lose to a Croc


Dude calm down I mean only that u can keeping croc at bay with panzer4 espiecally with okw panzer 4. Its not posible with Pershing or is2.
And if u lost panzer4 to croc its simply l2p problem.
Cp9 should stay
6 Feb 2020, 12:22 PM
#704
avatar of Vipper

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Dude calm down I mean only that u can keeping croc at bay with panzer4 espiecally with okw panzer 4. Its not posible with Pershing or is2.
And if u lost panzer4 to croc its only l2p problem.
Cp9 should stay

I perfectly calm "dude" you claim that "panzer4 can handle a croc" is simply false.

I suggest you back up you claim with some replays.
6 Feb 2020, 12:30 PM
#705
avatar of SupremeStefan

Posts: 1057

jump backJump back to quoted post6 Feb 2020, 12:22 PMVipper


I suggest you back up you claim with some replays.

Ahh yes because all your funny theorycrafting is based on replays.

And pls stop, this level of violence suggests that it's personal for you.
6 Feb 2020, 12:57 PM
#706
avatar of Vipper

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Ahh yes because all your funny theorycrafting is based on replays.

And pls stop, this level of violence suggests that it's personal for you.

I have a address a simple question to the mod team the rest is simply you, if there is something personal it is from your side alone...
6 Feb 2020, 14:03 PM
#707
avatar of Hannibal
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Go back to the topic guys and for once don't feel insulted by some bullshit since most of this is based on incorrect perception of the other user's post and then completely sticking with it instead of just leaning back and rereading it. There are many non-native speakers here so don't always jump to conclusions.
6 Feb 2020, 14:16 PM
#708
avatar of Leo251

Posts: 206

I insist that the patch is going in the wrong direction. The main problems are not being addressed:
- 60 range TD.
- LV being OP.
6 Feb 2020, 15:31 PM
#710
avatar of ZeroZeroNi

Posts: 728

Aren't LV's supposed to be a huge powerspike??? Don't really understand why that's a problem.
I thinks mod team should srsly think consider adding deflection dmg to
all tanks. Like pixel hp tanks/vehicles deflecting 2-3 shots in row is kinda dum. And it also gives excuses to why TD won't be needing to always pen heavies like Panthers/Tigers and give axis TD some way to fight Allied heavies more efficiently.
Though's TD would need to be doing more deflection damage then regular tanks.

6 Feb 2020, 18:38 PM
#711
avatar of Doomlord52

Posts: 899

If its not being addressed, then its main problem, but on personal level.


Or they are a huge problem, but that problem is complex and it will take time to come up with a reasonable solution.

6 Feb 2020, 19:35 PM
#712
avatar of Aarotron

Posts: 443

Could we also look at some abilities that are barely ever used, as this would be fine time to change things like il 2 strafe and p 47 mg strafe. Il 2 could be turned into loitter skillplanes, which could be more dufficent. P47 could see same, though damage should be adjusted so it does not just delete units.
6 Feb 2020, 19:39 PM
#713
avatar of LoopDloop

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Could we also look at some abilities that are barely ever used, as this would be fine time to change things like il 2 strafe and p 47 mg strafe. Il 2 could be turned into loitter skillplanes, which could be more dufficent. P47 could see same, though damage should be adjusted so it does not just delete units.

Loiters are so annoying to play against and not really that interesting to use though. I wish we saw more skillshots honestly.
6 Feb 2020, 19:48 PM
#714
avatar of Aarotron

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Loiters are so annoying to play against and not really that interesting to use though. I wish we saw more skillshots honestly.


The issue with autocannon/mg strafes is that they are seriously annoying hit as the area they can effect is small and they arrive way too slow to do their job properly. Cas doctrines mg strafe eorks as it pins enemy on quite large area. Strafes would nedd to arrive faster or have wider area of effect to work properly.
7 Feb 2020, 10:48 AM
#715
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What's wrong with that? Even panzer4 can handle it. The issue is heavy generalist rush.

lel. learn the game, stefanie.

a pz4 would not hold back a good played croc...since it can covered easily with AT guns. A pz4 with AT guns not..since the croc dive into a AT wall and wipe them easily...and the AT guns make kleinholz out of Pz4.
7 Feb 2020, 11:23 AM
#716
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jump backJump back to quoted post6 Feb 2020, 14:16 PMLeo251
I insist that the patch is going in the wrong direction. The main problems are not being addressed:
- OP heavy meta


Fixed
7 Feb 2020, 11:44 AM
#717
avatar of SupremeStefan

Posts: 1057


lel. learn the game, stefanie.

a pz4 would not hold back a good played croc...since it can covered easily with AT guns. A pz4 with AT guns not..since the croc dive into a AT wall and wipe them easily...and the AT guns make kleinholz out of Pz4.

Oh ok ulemule then in my scenerio panzer is suported by double stug and wins.
Anyway i know panzer cant solo croc.
I just wanted to point out that panzer can fight efficiently with support against croc when its not posible against is2.
Is2>croc
Thats it
7 Feb 2020, 19:39 PM
#718
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Please nerf pfusi AT snare range and remove bonus sight from G43 upgrade at the very minimum. They don't need 32 snare range and they don't need 45 sight or whatever. Their moving DPS is cancer enough, they don't need to be able to spot MGs before they potentially shoot them.
7 Feb 2020, 20:03 PM
#719
avatar of blvckdream

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Please nerf pfusi AT snare range and remove bonus sight from G43 upgrade at the very minimum. They don't need 32 snare range and they don't need 45 sight or whatever. Their moving DPS is cancer enough, they don't need to be able to spot MGs before they potentially shoot them.


+1

Seems like a no-brainer to me.
10 Feb 2020, 14:51 PM
#720
avatar of Vipper

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And here you have it croc will probably be move to CP 10 or CP 11.
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