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23 Dec 2019, 20:35 PM
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Literally all things that capitalist america has done. What's so special about communism?


Communism bans you from a tournament for upsetting the winnie the pooh at the top of the food chain.
23 Dec 2019, 20:43 PM
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Literally all things that capitalist america has done. What's so special about communism?

The fact you'd be jailed for that sentence alone.
23 Dec 2019, 21:22 PM
#23
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Literally all things that capitalist america has done. What's so special about communism?


It can’t exist because power vacuums get filled. Any other fantasy sci fi regimes you wanna discuss?

As for China, it’s a Maoist Marxist authoritarian state, not communist.
23 Dec 2019, 21:41 PM
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So, this means relic will use these new resources to deliver quality games and stop exploiting the playerbase to handle balance and maping on their own....right? (yeah I know its a 5 year old game living on borrowed time, but you know its gonna happen with AoE4)

Also, don't be naive. Games and movies have a political agenda, specialy those that display the US Army (or any army in that regard) in any capability, as they demand to be portrayed according to certain rules in exchange for support, council and access to real gear. Weapons manufacturers do the same when licencing their products.

Funny enough, Dice employees found out H&K were lying about the G36 specifications while testing the gun for battlefield 3 or 4.

Remember, politics are condenced economy.
23 Dec 2019, 21:45 PM
#25
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It can’t exist because power vacuums get filled. Any other fantasy sci fi regimes you wanna discuss?

As for China, it’s a Maoist Marxist authoritarian state, not communist.


Might I add: on feud with the soviet communist party since the 70s (so they wouldn't be bothered by relic portrayal of soviet troops) and last year the CCP banned marxist studies on universities due to the rise on strikes and pickets on their factories and mines.
26 Dec 2019, 16:32 PM
#26
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That Chinese communist money is too irresistible!
9 Jan 2020, 05:05 AM
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Comparing China with nazi Germany...

Even our great keyboard warrior Katitof seems to understand CCP (Chinese Communist Party) unfair trade deals and stealth war better than you. CCP is doing this stealth war globally and also my small country (and other European countries). All this CCP talk about "one road one belt" is doublespeak and benefits CCP not Chinese people.
As a western country, Australia is deeply influenced by CCP and is censoring universities and publishers.

A professor says his book was censored in Australia by the Chinese government:
https://qz.com/1127831/clive-hamilton-says-his-book-silent-invasion-is-being-censored-in-australia-by-the-chinese-government/
Australian professors and universities are being shamed into apologizing for offending Chinese students:
https://qz.com/1064435/australian-professors-and-universities-are-being-shamed-into-apologizing-for-offending-chinese-students/



Denmark “deeply concerned” over Chinese bids to build Greenland airports:
http://www.globalconstructionreview.com/news/denmark-deeply-concerned-over-chinese-bids-build-g/
Where is Chinese people's "one road one belt" going to Greenland? :(



Copenhagen Zoo (Denmark) cut Taiwan from panda map to please China:
https://www.thelocal.dk/20190808/china-made-copenhagen-zoo-to-cut-taiwan-from-panda-map
Using Chinese panda's as a tool to buy political influence, sure why not?.

This one is classic, go after anyone pro-Falun Gong religious movement:
Odeon Music and Theatre Hall in Odense, Denmark’s third-largest city has fueled public debate about the influence of communist China in the Nordic country.


CCP is utterly ruthless/corrupt and this fact can be confirmed easily by doing some research into CCP's organ harvesting program used on Chinese prisoners. Don't be naive and mislead by CCP fake promises and politeness.
CCP understands economic power and that is keeping them afloat (for now).

From Canadian filmmaker Leon Lee:
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm6527118/



In my country, dogs has more legal rights than Chinese prisoners.
Waiting time for new organs in China is less than a month wherein the west it can take years.
Evil organ harvesting and/or crony capitalism at its finest.?

This fact supported by former top Pentagon China experts, General Robert Spalding (also PhD economics).
Plenty of online interviews and info about him. This is soft US military disclosure.

Good analysis by Drift0r & Inside Gaming. Explain the complex situation for western game companies that do business in China.
Drift0r | Chinese Censorship of US Media Explained (Blizzard, NBA, & South Park):

Inside Gaming | How Chinese Censorship is Changing Gaming - Inside Gaming Feature:


Both CCP/Soviet Union and Nazi Germany are pro-collectivism that is cancer to the US/western rule of law.
This plays a huge role in how the law and human rights work within a country.
Individualism (anti-collectivism) emphasizes individual goals and rights.
The founding principles behind the US constitution is individualism and rule of law/equal justice under law.

"In this lecture we examine collectivism and individualism from the perspective of the 20th century economist and philosopher Ludwig von Mises:"

Patrick Bet-David breaks down the US Trade War with China and what you can do about it:


What is China?
https://twitter.com/robert_spalding/status/1188146505724628992
https://www.linkedin.com/in/rspalding/
https://www.af.mil/About-Us/Biographies/Display/Article/999629/brigadier-general-robert-s-spalding-iii/
*SNIP*
So, the next time someone says something about China, politely ask them which one they are referring to. Is it the people, the country or the regime? They are distinct, even though the CCP would like to convince you they are not.


Source: Kyle Bass, Hayman Capital Management and founder of Rule of Law foundation:
https://rolfoundation.org/
https://www.haymancapital.com/leadership/

From Chinese Tencent, China’s Latest Online Viral Game Makes You Clap for Xi Jinping Smart propaganda – now clapping for Xi Jinping has become a competition, October 18, 2017 (old news but relevant):
https://www.whatsonweibo.com/chinas-latest-online-viral-game-makes-clap-xi-jinping/
With the introduction of a new game by Tencent, people can now also clap along to Xi Jinping’s speech from their own living room. The game became an online hit on October 18. It was already played over 400 million times by 9 pm Beijing time.

Clap for Xi mobile game from Tencent goes Viral:


In China, Chinese billionaires fear the government.
In US, the government fear the billionaires/wall street.

Both systems is corrupt. But the way CCP and US fight back against corruption is not the same.

A hilarious story reported by BBC, a job from a Chinese businessman subcontracted 5 times (hitman to "take out" his competitor for $282,000):
Hesitant hitmen jailed over botched assassination in China
A group of hitmen have been jailed after repeatedly trying to subcontract a job to each other in Guangxi, China.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-50137450
9 Jan 2020, 21:41 PM
#28
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Next COH will be A epic exclusive? I pass.
9 Jan 2020, 22:56 PM
#29
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How big is the Chinese market for RTS compare to say South Korea?
10 Jan 2020, 00:24 AM
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How big is the Chinese market for RTS compare to say South Korea?

Does not exist.
Chinese market is all about grindy MMOs and mobile.
Also, whatever successful western game comes there, it is going to have to fall to forced partnership with chinese company, which will in turn steal assets/tech and make a knockoff, forcing original out of the country.

It happened to PUBG.
It happened to Overwatch.
It happened to diablo immortal before it was even released, because there is already identical game with different skins on the market there.
10 Jan 2020, 01:56 AM
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I've heard that TW:3K was a huge success in China.
10 Jan 2020, 05:49 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post10 Jan 2020, 00:24 AMKatitof

Does not exist.
Chinese market is all about grindy MMOs and mobile.
Also, whatever successful western game comes there, it is going to have to fall to forced partnership with chinese company, which will in turn steal assets/tech and make a knockoff, forcing original out of the country.

It happened to PUBG.
It happened to Overwatch.
It happened to diablo immortal before it was even released, because there is already identical game with different skins on the market there.


Basically this. While the market is big, you are basically catering to a minority of them who would prefer western type of titles.

You also missed CS clone, Crossfire, which IIRC was top5 most lucrative game in F2P. Also basically all top 10 F2P are more lucrative than the top1 AAA.

Diablo Immortal was basically released because there was already a chinese company which developed a clone game for mobile.
15 Jan 2020, 19:19 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post10 Jan 2020, 00:24 AMKatitof

Does not exist.
Chinese market is all about grindy MMOs and mobile.
Also, whatever successful western game comes there, it is going to have to fall to forced partnership with chinese company, which will in turn steal assets/tech and make a knockoff, forcing original out of the country.

Even though mobile game is the most popular type of games in China, PC market is still large enough for traditional game companies to prosper.
Chinese is now Steam's most popular language, according to its hardware survey
16 Jan 2020, 16:25 PM
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