I mostly agree although I would rather have it cheaper than with better mgs.
To make thing even worse Super heavies are now available earlier making T4 an even worse invesement for Ostheer you are much better of investing in Tiger vs Pershing, Croc and even IS-2 since they would at least get the much needed AI and reply on help from stug/pak vs the Super heavy.
In my opinion super heavies need to be delayed more, not all games have to involve pestering/tiger/IS/croc. Actually allot of powerful unit need to come later. Than one can tone down all units and give the a bigger window of opportunity.
Imo decreasing their window of opportunity of unit while buffing them thru the roof to compensate is the wrong direction.
I think its tough to justify pushing heavies back in timing. They come at like 20 -25 minutes most games, and the average game length is mabye like 30 minutes. I think it would be more fair to Increase tech costs in some way. The King tiger and Tiger ace (as a second vehicle after t3) seem to come around the right time at 25+ minutes just because they cost a bit more to tech to so players can't rush them wihtout incurring great cost.
Compare this to say the pershing. Instead of paying for a sherman then a second one (which would come later anyways b/c of build time), many players will just waiting 3-4 minutes for a pershing b/c it's not a big cost difference
I don't disagree at all and I don't think my previous post did either.
I wasn't tryna call you out as much as i was trying to follow up the thought
It just need better more relevant vet bonus.
Its base stats are good, but is also expensive and late.
But as a game continues, it fall behind because its vet is not good enough.
I also say it is a non-suppressing MG platform...aka almost useless vs infantry. Even a Tiger Ace without pintle and shorter range, is better vs infantry. Too much hype given to its pintle. It is not even as good as duskha or 50cal upgrades. Just overplayed on this prowess, like overplayed about the maxim deathloop.
After they made panthers stronger at vet 0 + increased the cost while nerfing vet 2 Panthers definitely don't have comparable vet to other late game vehicles. Especially since most TDs have a lot higher Pen than they did 2 or 3 years ago, the vet 2 now ~10% armor bonus and turret rotation doesn't have much of an impact.
Edit: if you increase Pen at vet2 it could scale better against heavies while not being any stronger against mediums and tds.