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8 Nov 2019, 14:51 PM
#181
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Why do people find it so hard to fight Jacksons when Paks and Shreks get the job done? Jackson has 0 anti infantry capability.


True. The problem is that USF has many tools to make paks useless. They are too slow to react to flanks and of course terrible attacking kiting units. Their range is 60 (just like TDs) and tank destroyers shooting at advancing tanks will almost always be out of their range and screened by infantry. Shrecks are very expensive upgrade on a fragile and expensive squad. Screening infantry has a relatively easy job of damaging them forcing a retreat or simply wiping them when they want to have that one more volley.
8 Nov 2019, 18:46 PM
#182
avatar of WingZero

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True. The problem is that USF has many tools to make paks useless. They are too slow to react to flanks and of course terrible attacking kiting units. Their range is 60 (just like TDs) and tank destroyers shooting at advancing tanks will almost always be out of their range and screened by infantry. Shrecks are very expensive upgrade on a fragile and expensive squad. Screening infantry has a relatively easy job of damaging them forcing a retreat or simply wiping them when they want to have that one more volley.


To be honest AT guns are great vs USF since they have no Kat and yes Gal but that is doctrinal. You just have to micro and defend you AT guns and Shrek squads.
8 Nov 2019, 18:52 PM
#183
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To be honest AT guns are great vs USF since they have no Kat and yes Gal but that is doctrinal. You just have to micro and defend you AT guns and Shrek squads.


Agreed. The problem is not with defending, which you can do successfully. Offensive capabilities are inferior. You just have to close in more and it is difficult to chase a kiting 60 range TD with a Pak or panzergrens. You have pack howie as USF instead of werfer.
11 Nov 2019, 09:23 AM
#184
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To be honest AT guns are great vs USF since they have no Kat and yes Gal but that is doctrinal. You just have to micro and defend you AT guns and Shrek squads.


who need kat or something to counter easily AT wall as USF?

you only need pak howie, scotts or one of the dozen callin arty from USF. play smart...not hard
11 Nov 2019, 09:58 AM
#185
avatar of Katitof

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who need kat or something to counter easily AT wall as USF?

you only need pak howie, scotts or one of the dozen callin arty from USF. play smart...not hard


Oh, oh can I try as well?

*clears throat*

who need panther or something to counter easily TD walls as ost?

you only need PaK, shreck or one of the docs with ele or SCAS. play smart... not hard


Did I do well?
11 Nov 2019, 10:05 AM
#186
avatar of ullumulu

Posts: 1957

jump backJump back to quoted post11 Nov 2019, 09:58 AMKatitof


Oh, oh can I try as well?

*clears throat*

who need panther or something to counter easily TD walls as ost?

you only need PaK, shreck or one of the docs with ele or SCAS. play smart... not hard


Did I do well?


U never will change your trolling style, right?

You should really learn to read the context. Paks, schrecks and ele or jgtoiger will do nothing against pak howies and scotts when you know that they have more range and/ or is teamweapon. So the USF scotts and paks can counter easily axis pak wall.
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