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Evidence that Su-85 is the only way to go

by KingAnj 1st September 2013, 03:36 AM
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Patch: 3.0.0.10416
Duration: 00:53:44
1 Sep 2013, 03:36 AM
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Posts: 75

Here is one of my last three games, this keeps happening to me. Sure, i lost some conscripts; sure my T-34s could have been micro'ed better; sure, i could have T-34"ram-ed" at times, but with nerf to penetration, it's not a sure-thing; sure i could have done _____. I felt i controlled/cut-offed the map well. I felt my at position was clear on my screen and i felt i won the game at the half-way mark (cause i did). I killed just as many, if not more FULL Squads than him.

I felt that i out-played my opponent 2:1 and i still lose because T3 soviets cannot compete vs P4 & pgrens.

Also this game, i wish i had keyboard/actions fraps onto it. My At guns refused to fire and needed baby-sitting control, then if i make a miss-click, they unpack and die. Maybe you can count this loss/at stupidity (and my other 2 losses) as 'FERMA-BAD-LUCK-MVGAME'

Also, See how blitzkrieg is amazing.

Lastly, this replay is my evidence that there is no reason *NOT* to go T4 Right away and get SU-85.

Hope you enjoy this hour-long-depressing-game via the soviets point of view.
Tips are welcomed if you saw any glaring mistakes, THANKS! :oops:MVGame

1 Sep 2013, 14:04 PM
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avatar of Blovski

Posts: 480

Here is one of my last three games, this keeps happening to me. Sure, i lost some conscripts; sure my T-34s could have been micro'ed better; sure, i could have T-34"ram-ed" at times, but with nerf to penetration, it's not a sure-thing; sure i could have done _____. I felt i controlled/cut-offed the map well. I felt my at position was clear on my screen and i felt i won the game at the half-way mark (cause i did). I killed just as many, if not more FULL Squads than him.

I felt that i out-played my opponent 2:1 and i still lose because T3 soviets cannot compete vs P4 & pgrens.

Also this game, i wish i had keyboard/actions fraps onto it. My At guns refused to fire and needed baby-sitting control, then if i make a miss-click, they unpack and die. Maybe you can count this loss/at stupidity (and my other 2 losses) as 'FERMA-BAD-LUCK-MVGAME'

Also, See how blitzkrieg is amazing.

Lastly, this replay is my evidence that there is no reason *NOT* to go T4 Right away and get SU-85.

Hope you enjoy this hour-long-depressing-game via the soviets point of view.
Tips are welcomed if you saw any glaring mistakes, THANKS! :oops:MVGame



OK, watched through it. Um, Engineers get blown up on their own mine, a good idea to queue up moving away from a mine after you make one (also, you lost the second squad of engis more or less as soon as it got out, so you had no mines or free repair later on). The Ostheer player has better early game fuel control and it's only really the T-70 that got you such a decisive mid-game advantage. Ram against a P-IV *always* works. You lose a couple of T-34s because you sent them off alone against P-IVs with an AT gun backing them up. T-34s really need to work together with other units if they're taking on armour. His big AT gun flank was really well judged.

Your big issue was keeping the T-34s alive. You lost two from sending them after things alone, you lost the 85s because you sent them forwards a bit far then turned around instead of reversing out, and the AT gun cover wasn't far forwards enough to discourage the P-IVs. Also, I think in the midgame your previously good infantry preservation kind of slipped - you lost a few squads. I'd question getting T-34/85s if you have Tier 3 - normally better to have 3 T34/76s for the cost.
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