Please feel free to review this game. Friends and I have suspected this clan for being map hackers for some time. The player named with the Chinese characters is a smurf once you examine the playercard. German national with like 20 solo q games and mostly AT games with the TR clan.
Pay attention to their mg placements, never extending to a contested area, and great flanks. My partner was suspicious so I saved the replay. He believed thats exactly how a map hacker would play, a complete reactionary playstyle. I said while we reviewed was but he never really looks thru the fog of war directly on the allies, but my partner said they clearly mostly use the overview strategic map and the map in the HUD. Let me know your thoughts.
Possible Axis map hacking?
by
Nil
30th March 2021, 20:34 PM
- [00:00:55] Xi Jing Pooh:
- [00:01:04] Omni:
- [00:01:11] Xi Jing Pooh:
- [00:01:20] T.R. Thoton:
- [00:18:22] Omni:
- [00:18:25] Nilrruc:
30 Mar 2021, 20:34 PM
#1
Posts: 4
30 Mar 2021, 22:35 PM
#2
Posts: 45
One top player gets banhammered and now everybody's got their fingers on the hackusation triggers I see.
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30 Mar 2021, 22:41 PM
#3
Posts: 9
Honestly this is the most ridiculous thing I ever read. Imagine carrying your noob friend through automatch and getting accused of cheating.
vi veriversum vivus vici
30 Mar 2021, 23:54 PM
#4
Posts: 4
Thoton you have 300 AT games with Seaking. But obviously he never map hacked when he played with you right?
Also, please have more ppl defend you while zero people have downloaded and reviewed the match.
Also, please have more ppl defend you while zero people have downloaded and reviewed the match.
31 Mar 2021, 02:11 AM
#5
Posts: 281
I guess every person who played with Seeking once is a hacker now. 
Nobody has to defend thoton btw... its on you to atleast provide some time stamps of situations only a map hacker could have handled the way it happened.
Nobody has to defend thoton btw... its on you to atleast provide some time stamps of situations only a map hacker could have handled the way it happened.
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31 Mar 2021, 02:42 AM
#6
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watched from thotons perspective at 2x and 4x at times. Didn't see anything other than gamesense. I don't think he even looked into deep FoW once. Not that you have to but you'd think he'd do it a little bit.
And i'm not trying to be rude, and you're very decently ranked in random 2s as allies, but your AT rank with your teammate is far below where Thoton and his teammate will probably sit (still haven't played 10 games). So maybe it's just an old rank and you're both far better now and you haven't raised it yet, but if you guys are ranked 650 and thoton usually sits top 50, I'd say there's more likely a skill gap then map hacking.
And i'm not trying to be rude, and you're very decently ranked in random 2s as allies, but your AT rank with your teammate is far below where Thoton and his teammate will probably sit (still haven't played 10 games). So maybe it's just an old rank and you're both far better now and you haven't raised it yet, but if you guys are ranked 650 and thoton usually sits top 50, I'd say there's more likely a skill gap then map hacking.
31 Mar 2021, 03:07 AM
#7
Posts: 4
Im not accusing Thoton of the map hacking during the match but the Wehr player. My partner Omni. Is the reason why I have to play vs the tougher competetion all the darn time because he floats around top 10-100s in 2v2s. He called out the suspicious playstlye. At the time of the match he was ranked top 10 brit player and watch what happened to Omni. To be frank I got beat anyway but I saved the reply because Omni thought something was fishy. View the match from the Brit vs Wehr matchup on the right side.
31 Mar 2021, 07:10 AM
#8
Posts: 226 | Subs: 1
Permanently BannedDo you want me to decrew it and then crew it?
31 Mar 2021, 09:22 AM
#9
Posts: 5441 | Subs: 35
its on you to atleast provide some time stamps of situations only a map hacker could have handled the way it happened.
+1
watched from thotons perspective at 2x and 4x at times. Didn't see anything other than gamesense. I don't think he even looked into deep FoW once. Not that you have to but you'd think he'd do it a little bit.
Why you checked Thoton?
Thoton is not a Chinese characters 
@nil:
This Monday the anti cheat system got an upgrade. So relic has now better tools to detect maphackers and drophackers. It is ofc your right to think a person maphacked, but then pls as CN said, give timestamps for a replay or even better make long clips/ video if possible.
Just saying "Person X maphack" is a no go. But yes i saw you wrote: possible maphack?
And you asked for other opinions, which is fine to do.
31 Mar 2021, 11:44 AM
#10
Posts: 3588 | Subs: 3
I'm just gonna leave this here
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31 Mar 2021, 13:51 PM
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Thoton you have 300 AT games with Seaking. But obviously he never map hacked when he played with you right?
Also, please have more ppl defend you while zero people have downloaded and reviewed the match.
Oh geez, this just sounds like bias & salt against the T.R. Clan.
In fact, some of the people in T.R. were actually against seeking in the whole maphack case and believed the accusers, and a lot of them were pretty neutral.
As others said, in the future you should provide timestamps and/or videoclips with strong evidence of hacks being used, otherwise it just looks like a joke
31 Mar 2021, 17:25 PM
#12
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Why you checked Thoton?
Neither were chinese characters, and it wasn't specified in OP which he was accusing. Since he stated his teammate was suspicious of the whole clan, Thoton should be part of that.
31 Mar 2021, 17:36 PM
#13
Posts: 2
Im not accusing Thoton of the map hacking during the match but the Wehr player. My partner Omni. Is the reason why I have to play vs the tougher competetion all the darn time because he floats around top 10-100s in 2v2s. He called out the suspicious playstlye. At the time of the match he was ranked top 10 brit player and watch what happened to Omni. To be frank I got beat anyway but I saved the reply because Omni thought something was fishy. View the match from the Brit vs Wehr matchup on the right side.
I literally have nearly twice as much hours then you in the game so who is the smurf here? Also why did you block me on steam after I added you =( ? Would have liked to hear what exactly indicates the map hack here? BTW. I think we got the Arch Ally Crybaby here: ...Muhhhh... BREN blobing doesn't work cause MG!! ....Muhhhh..... Buff UK!11!1!1!! .....Muhhhh..... German Grenades OP!!!111!1!!!1 .....REEEEEeeeeeeee...... Maphax!!
Sry but I just don't get it.
OH before I forget I am not a german national, but a highly secret agent of the CCCP trust me I am a profesional! (Got my graphic enhandsmand mod from mister XI's toystore)
1 Apr 2021, 14:06 PM
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lol
1 Apr 2021, 15:55 PM
#15
Posts: 9
So I watched this replay back and forth and I came to the conclusion that this thoton guy is hacking. I have evidence just look
vi veriversum vivus vici
1 Apr 2021, 19:47 PM
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Since he stated his teammate was suspicious of the whole clan, Thoton should be part of that.
Oh no, am I included in that? I'm a map hacker too? Despite 0 games played with Seeking? Whaaaaaat!
What's next? T.R. members wear armbands in public? Or maybe you guys finally close this libel filled thread of a guy who couldn't even bother making time stamps or an actual case to present and is just tossing accusations around?
Unless the guy wants to tell us what and when is suspicious, in which case he can go right ahead, though he'd probably have done that already if he was willing to in the first place.
The original post in this would be a good example to follow: https://www.coh2.org/replay/107725/top-55-at-using-maphack-keep-looking-into-fow
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1 Apr 2021, 21:26 PM
#17
Posts: 281
are you maphacker?
I asked you a serious question.
are you maphacker?
I asked you a serious question.
are you maphacker?
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1 Apr 2021, 21:51 PM
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Oh no, am I included in that? I'm a map hacker too? Despite 0 games played with Seeking? Whaaaaaat!
What's next? T.R. members wear armbands in public? Or maybe you guys finally close this libel filled thread of a guy who couldn't even bother making time stamps or an actual case to present and is just tossing accusations around?
Unless the guy wants to tell us what and when is suspicious, in which case he can go right ahead, though he'd probably have done that already if he was willing to in the first place.
The original post in this would be a good example to follow: https://www.coh2.org/replay/107725/top-55-at-using-maphack-keep-looking-into-fow
You should read what I was replying to for some context before just spouting whatever came to mind first.
1 Apr 2021, 23:45 PM
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Posts: 226 | Subs: 1
Permanently Bannedare you a maphacker? I can ban you if you want?
2 Apr 2021, 04:38 AM
#20
Posts: 2
I am not a maphacker please watch the replay! If you want to talk about any specifics add me on steam...
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