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Im citizen of Ukraine, im study in Lviv university (not my native town though) and im offended by this thread. I dont care about history, but let's talk about those days.
>new government mostly (around 50%) consisting of UPA/banderovites
The only political party of the Ukraine who you can call "banderovietes/UPA" is "svoboda" and "Praviy sektor" . Actually they have no any power. There is only 7 deputies from "Svoboda" in verhovna rada and only 1 men from "Praviy sektor". Dmitro Yarosh, leader of the "Praviy sektor" had only 1% on the president election. The actual government (Porosheno, Yazenuk, Turchinov) havent any involvement to any national organization (and never had).
>on of their first changed in constitution was about russian language
Thats not true. This law was proposed and passed (about russian language) only in 2012. It wasnt a constitution change though. It was silly and not well thought out but it have passed. After revolution there were a propose to cancel this law from one of the deputies. It wasnt cancelled. Yea, dude, you can even read it in wikipedia (or official ukrainian website) - this law wasnt cancelled and still works.
In 23 years there were never any harassment of any nationality or language in Ukraine. Any harassment is punished by law.
>it was not allowed in Ukraine borders
Just no comments, you got to be really silly (not trying to offend you) if you really believed in that shit.
>Crime organization took power in Ukraine
Ok, tell me how this organization called, what people in it, and what crimes it did. Because i live in Ukraine and dont know such a one.
>they changed constitution that strikes at russian population mostly
As i said, they didnt.
Now let's talk about the situation at donbass and Ukraine
All leaders of those "republics" is russians. They got nationality of russia, they are citizens of russia they lived in russia. Easy to check if you dont believe me. Not all russiantalking people is russians however. There were no any constitution changes to harass russiantalking people and there were not such a harassment at all. Over half a million (almost 800k by non-official data) ppl of Donbass are refugees. Most of the students were disturbed over western/central Ukraine universities (60 were settled in my hostel just half a year ago). You think there is any harassment over them? Lviv is fascists capital in Ukraine if believe to russian propaganda. Nope. There is no such a thing at all and never was. (there is also a lot of ppl from Indonesia, Arabian countries and afrika). Next, i got a lot of friends and relatives in the eastern Ukraine (Kharkiv, Mikolaev and even Donetsk). All of them want to live in Ukraine. Friends from Donetsk were occupied by terrorists. There is only russian TV in this town, witch washbrain ppl. It talks about nazis in ukraine who kill russiantalking ppl. Lucky those who have connection to the reality. Any who tried to talk against them (terrorist i mean) are now missing. They can took your house your car and everything they want, and you can nothing to do because they got guns and power. Those friends from Donetsk left the town 2 weeks ago. Now they live in Kiev. They have lost everything.
Cease fire. There were signed document in Minsk about cease fire, so the problem can be solved amicably. Government of Ukraine gave to Donbass region special status witch made them almost the same to autonomous Republic. Separatists didnt gave a single fuck about that. At the second day they tried to assault Mariupol, they even wrote it on their official webpages, but it failed and they accused Ukraine in violation of cease fire witch is ridiculous. Next, as we know, the conflict raised with new power from last days. How the cease fire was violated? Over all period of cease fire there were artillery duels, the most tense situation were in Donetsk airport. In 2 last weeks before our days the separatists started the assault of airport, in last 2 days the soldiers in airport were under siege in critical situation - airport was almost taken, a lot of wounded solders were in there and they needed a hospitality. The government of Ukraine made a decision to make the "road of life" to the airport and save solders in it from total annihilation. Solders were saved, terrorists throw back. But, the provocation was successful, and now terrorist goes for counter-attack. Cease fire is totally broken. Now they trying to attack the city of Mariupol. Artillery strikes the city. 20 citizens were killed just yesterday. Russian send more tanks and soldiers to zone of conflict. Putin know that economic of Ukraine is weak, and war just devastate it, he knows that everyone is fear of ww3, so no1 will help the Ukraine. Thats why he can send his army to Ukraine and just say "hey, it's not mine, look, they dont even have russian federation flag". About the motives think by yourself. It's not makes any difference anyway.
Banderovites are not in governemnt? That's strange cuz the date of creation UPA is now your national day, your government wants to "retake" polish eastern territories claiming them to be theirs and they ask for forgivness for what they did before to poles (google - Massacre in Volhynia and eastern Galicia for example), at least nazis were so good to put a bullet in your head or in worse case gas you to death while UPA/banderovites methods were more brutal (actually they invented 136 methods to kill or so)
I believe your friends from Donbas are pure ukrainians right? so it's pretty obvious they want to stay in Ukraine.
About this ceasefire... story repeats like it was with japan vs USA, cold war etc, why? cuz Westerns wants something and give nothing back, in Minsk what they decided? Russia retreats from ukraine, leaves separatists alone and let them slaughter right? (idea to create demilitarized zone was fake)