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Croc price increase too much?

28 Nov 2015, 10:34 AM
#1
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I just noticed the Churchill Crocodile price changed in the December patch preview mod from 180f/720mp to 230f/640mp

That's honestly over the top! after constant nerfing this unit one after another, in all aspects now such a big price increase?!!

I think if it's gonna cost that much it is better if many recent changes/nerfs get revert, cause it's too much for all these nerfs right now.

Really, should the difference between Croc and KT be 30f/80mp?!!! plus KT can arrive earlier!!!

PS. normal Churchill will also be useless in the next patch for 180f/540mp +50f/200 mp next patch, specially with the changes to OKW, you'll see
28 Nov 2015, 10:38 AM
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Not really a Ninja dude Brad said this in the Patch Notes Thread
28 Nov 2015, 10:39 AM
#3
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Not really a Ninja dude Brad said this in the Patch Notes Thread


alright then, will u plz remove the "ninja change" from the thread title plz?
28 Nov 2015, 10:58 AM
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28 Nov 2015, 12:07 PM
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we'll have to see. my gut instinct is that it's too high but i haven't actually used it yet so i'll withhold judgement.
28 Nov 2015, 12:08 PM
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I haven't had the pleasure to play against or with the croc in the preview mod, but I suspect the range nerf + vet changes would be enough.
28 Nov 2015, 12:26 PM
#7
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its should actually be 700MP 250Fuel

a TANK WHICH HARDCOUNTERS ANTI-TANK should be practically unaffordable
28 Nov 2015, 12:29 PM
#8
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its should actually be 700MP 250Fuel

a TANK WHICH HARDCOUNTERS ANTI-TANK should be practically unaffordable


Please ad there infantry AT.

Atherts that can do it . kingtiger , tiger ace , tiger ,is2 , isu 152 , Strumtiger ...
28 Nov 2015, 12:29 PM
#9
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its should actually be 700MP 250Fuel

a TANK WHICH HARDCOUNTERS ANTI-TANK should be practically unaffordable


Fun fact: The 230 fuel Croco gets countered by any armor.
28 Nov 2015, 12:30 PM
#10
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its should actually be 700MP 250Fuel

a TANK WHICH HARDCOUNTERS ANTI-TANK should be practically unaffordable


800mp and 350 fuel for KT and TA nao!
Same reason.
28 Nov 2015, 12:38 PM
#11
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Fun fact: The 230 fuel Croco gets countered by any armor.
Not countered. Just scared away. Meanwhile it toasts all the support your tank has. The real problem is the synergy the Croc has combined with other units. You can pretty much kill all the soft stuff even while under AT fire, retreat and at the third engagement you still have the Croc while the Axis player has a tank and burning cadavers.
28 Nov 2015, 12:41 PM
#12
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Please ad there infantry AT.

Atherts that can do it . kingtiger , tiger ace , tiger ,is2 , isu 152 , Strumtiger ...


It gets countered by 135fuel/400 mp (JP4), u know that right? or even Stug G, or any other armor

I question the fact u suit being strategist in this forum, with the tanks you compared/mentioned there, which are all very strong vs any armor in the game!

28 Nov 2015, 12:44 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post28 Nov 2015, 12:38 PMButcher
Not countered. Just scared away. Meanwhile it toasts all the support your tank has. The real problem is the synergy the Croc has combined with other units. You can pretty much kill all the soft stuff even while under AT fire, retreat and at the third engagement you still have the Croc while the Axis player has a tank and burning cadavers.


Seriously, posts like this make me facepalm.


PLAY GOD DAMN PREVIEW PATCH YOU FRIGGIN THEORYCRAFTERS!

You need a SINGLE tank to block crock movement, its snail speed and bad breath range on preview doesn't justify such drastic resource increase, I could understand if it had kept its range, but IT DODN'T.
28 Nov 2015, 13:14 PM
#14
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jump backJump back to quoted post28 Nov 2015, 12:38 PMButcher
Not countered. Just scared away. Meanwhile it toasts all the support your tank has. The real problem is the synergy the Croc has combined with other units. You can pretty much kill all the soft stuff even while under AT fire, retreat and at the third engagement you still have the Croc while the Axis player has a tank and burning cadavers.


And whacha gonna do if the Elefant comes for you... ? Seriously, the flamethrower range decrease has a huge impact on the croco performance and causes it to get dangerously close to the enemy.
28 Nov 2015, 13:17 PM
#15
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Fuel cost should only be 180-200 not 230. It does come really late for something that has limited AT and a whole lot of AI, but it did get nerfs so the fuel one is a little too much.
28 Nov 2015, 13:22 PM
#16
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give it back it its range and make it 200 fuel..ok..??
28 Nov 2015, 13:25 PM
#17
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210 fuel would've been fine.
28 Nov 2015, 14:25 PM
#18
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I liked it how on brit release it was the feared strong unit that could turn the tide by itself it waited long enough for, with the flare thing for warning and so on. It was like an allied KT and it was cool. Problem was it was too cheap. And thus when one was destroyed another came on the field to finish the job. They should just give it 720/260 cost like KT and same stats it had on release.
28 Nov 2015, 14:27 PM
#19
avatar of Jadame!

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Now with this nerf on top of huge brits nerf list i am seriously worried.

Nevertheless, croc is too good at wiping squads, bigger cost only means wiping squads for higher price. I think it should use main gun AoE decrease, not price increase, it already cost 700mp, which is huge, doubly so for UKF.
28 Nov 2015, 14:32 PM
#20
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Relic is in a mood of clubbing the Brits meanwhile left all the stupid underpowered stuff like AEC/sexton unchanged and on the top of that the OKW revamp(too much love?),

fur Deutschland too much?
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