Mirror USF at gun with UKF 6 pounder
7 Oct 2015, 04:48 AM
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7 Oct 2015, 04:56 AM
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7 Oct 2015, 05:00 AM
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Red Bear, even though we are in rival clans and I hate you very much, I will respond courteously to your thread:
non, monsieur.
jk.
I like you.
also, btw, I think USF AT gun shouldn't get pen with vet. It should get high pen like all AT guns then increased accuracy, RoF, or whatever AT guns usually get at vet.
non, monsieur.
jk.
I like you.
also, btw, I think USF AT gun shouldn't get pen with vet. It should get high pen like all AT guns then increased accuracy, RoF, or whatever AT guns usually get at vet.
7 Oct 2015, 05:04 AM
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The British AT Gun is overpowered compared to other AT Guns, so I do not support this.
The US AT Gun could use a buff, but lets not over-buff it on purpose.
Could reduce damage to 120 and increase pen to 210/200/190, and increase accuracy.
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7 Oct 2015, 05:06 AM
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Mirror UKF 6 pounder with USF 57mm Kappa
7 Oct 2015, 05:29 AM
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and you get a PaK 40, and you get a PaK 40, and you get a PaK 40, 
7 Oct 2015, 06:25 AM
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Permanently BannedYa dude everyone except germans should get a pack 40 clone thats both cheaper and has better stats. #lelic #balance #hurrdurr
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7 Oct 2015, 06:55 AM
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Although I'm not the USF 1v1 pro all knowing player here. I will say that the USF does not need a better anti tank gun.
They need tanks that don't die to 3 pak shots. Or at least tanks that can RNG luck their way out of being killed; like axis tanks usually have a chance of doing when it comes to being countered.
They need tanks that don't die to 3 pak shots. Or at least tanks that can RNG luck their way out of being killed; like axis tanks usually have a chance of doing when it comes to being countered.
7 Oct 2015, 07:57 AM
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I don't think it's a good idea to just start cloning certain units to others just because the latter works better.
7 Oct 2015, 09:10 AM
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Nope.
This would require changes to Jackson.
This would require changes to Jackson.
7 Oct 2015, 09:14 AM
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Permanently BannedMinus the +50% increased accuracy vs vehicles that the stock 6 pounder gets 
Whenever I face USF as OKW, it feels like I have been strapped down into a mental hospital wheelchair, with legs that can't reach the floor to move myself forward and a nurse is trying to move the wheelchair backwards whilst I have to race a formula one car for a best of three laps.
It feels handicapped from the start
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It feels handicapped from the start
No thumbs, cute and a lot of furry fluffiness, I am the ultimate kitten and by the heavens, am I angry!
7 Oct 2015, 09:22 AM
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Buff bazookas to shrek Level too, axis got all the fine stuff (pak, handheld at,Tanks, lategame). Im german myself but relics axis favourism cant be unseen
7 Oct 2015, 09:38 AM
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Minus the +50% increased accuracy vs vehicles that the stock 6 pounder gets
All AT Guns should have this.
Buff bazookas to shrek Level too, axis got all the fine stuff (pak, handheld at,Tanks, lategame). Im german myself but relics axis favourism cant be unseen
Funny people still complain about axis favoritism despite Allied strength at the moment. The Bazooka is worse than the Panzerschreck because that's how it was in reality.
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7 Oct 2015, 10:01 AM
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All AT Guns should have this.
Agreed, either remove it from 6 pounder, or give all at guns this.
Funny people still complain about axis favoritism despite Allied strength at the moment. The Bazooka is worse than the Panzerschreck because that's how it was in reality.
You will always have people who are bias towards one specific faction, that will never change. As to your remark about bazooka being worse in reality than a panzershreck, that is not a way to balance a game, bazooka should be as a reliable anti tank platform as the panzershreck, minus the model sniping. If the bazooka is improved to be on par with the panzerschreck, a cost increase must be made most definitely.
Whenever I face USF as OKW, it feels like I have been strapped down into a mental hospital wheelchair, with legs that can't reach the floor to move myself forward and a nurse is trying to move the wheelchair backwards whilst I have to race a formula one car for a best of three laps.
It feels handicapped from the start
No thumbs, cute and a lot of furry fluffiness, I am the ultimate kitten and by the heavens, am I angry!
It feels handicapped from the start
No thumbs, cute and a lot of furry fluffiness, I am the ultimate kitten and by the heavens, am I angry!
7 Oct 2015, 10:34 AM
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I'm the only that seems to like the 57mm at gun. It reliably fights off medium tanks. Has a large arc of fire, so you don't have to micro so intensively like other At guns and Take aim is a really, really good vet ability. Although target weak point is better.
The only thing that makes problems are Tigers and Panthers... But that's a job for the Jackson.
The only thing that makes problems are Tigers and Panthers... But that's a job for the Jackson.
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7 Oct 2015, 10:39 AM
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And make PaK43 the stock non-doc axis AT and give it mobility.
7 Oct 2015, 11:06 AM
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The Bazooka is worse than the Panzerschreck because that's how it was in reality.
And the 6 pounder is LITERALLLY the usf AT gun in reality
My place in the ladder is irrelevant as long as I am matched with opponents of the same rank and play all factions (balance at place 1000+ is no different from balance in top 100 if we consider what I said before the brakets) so I don't care about your assertion which is also irrelevant.
7 Oct 2015, 11:29 AM
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And the 6 pounder is LITERALLLY the usf AT gun in reality
Yes but Relic decided the British were gonna excel at everything if used properly, and go all-in on the AT units. Even the AEC and Valentine were modeled with 75mm Guns rather than the 2 pounders or 6 pounders they more commonly had.
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7 Oct 2015, 11:45 AM
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+1.
To people complaining that it already deals with medium armour and doesn't need a buff - This will not change the performance of the gun vs medium armour - it already pen's med armour well.
It just needs a buff against heavy armour, that's all this change would affect. USF has to rely on Jacksons, with less health than a stug, to tackle late game. They need another option - no debate - as lategame the USF combined arms faction has only one arm.
To people complaining that it already deals with medium armour and doesn't need a buff - This will not change the performance of the gun vs medium armour - it already pen's med armour well.
It just needs a buff against heavy armour, that's all this change would affect. USF has to rely on Jacksons, with less health than a stug, to tackle late game. They need another option - no debate - as lategame the USF combined arms faction has only one arm.
7 Oct 2015, 11:53 AM
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I'm the only that seems to like the 57mm at gun. It reliably fights off medium tanks. Has a large arc of fire, so you don't have to micro so intensively like other At guns and Take aim is a really, really good vet ability. Although target weak point is better.
The only thing that makes problems are Tigers and Panthers... But that's a job for the Jackson.
go ahead some scrubs around don't know game mechanics and came here to show off some stupid talk okay?
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