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Defensive Stance Poll

Defensive Stance fine in its current state ?
Option Distribution Votes
13%
87%
Total votes: 45
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1 Sep 2015, 13:09 PM
#1
avatar of Don'tKnow

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What is your opinion about defensive stance ?

1919 LMGs are already really strong weapons but on top of that you can activate defensive stance any time to get yellow cover,increased accuracy,immune to HMG suppression and it works as a 360° HMG.
Furthermore it costs no munition,has low cooldown und can also be used as an offensive ability.


Only vote if you have played and encountered defensive stance abuse !
1 Sep 2015, 13:14 PM
#2
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And add there ability to dodge nade cause it can be deactivated anytime.


But im afraid it is one of few things that keep usf in game agains prostheer or new owk
1 Sep 2015, 13:18 PM
#3
avatar of Don'tKnow

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And add there ability to dodge nade cause it can be deactivated anytime.


But im afraid it is one of few things that keep usf in game against prostheer or new okw


Thats why i wrote low cooldown;nades - deactivate or retreat and the enemy wasted 30 muni.
1919 on their own will keep you ingame because of high dmg.
1 Sep 2015, 13:30 PM
#4
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You forgot to add the option "Keep it as it is". I think Defensive Stance is definitely strong but you have to spend an considerable amount of munitions to be able to activate it.

Nevertheless I suggest that Defensive Stance should only be possible to be activated if out of combat to turn it into an defensive ability.

1 Sep 2015, 13:34 PM
#5
avatar of Don'tKnow

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Theodosios "Keep suppression but can only be activated when out of combat" :D
Thx for your opinion though,appreciated.
1 Sep 2015, 13:36 PM
#6
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Theodosios "Keep suppression but can only be activated when out of combat" :D
Thx for your opinion though,appreciated.


Oh I have totally overlooked it. :guyokay:

I apologize for my sluttery.
1 Sep 2015, 13:43 PM
#7
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I miss the option: "Its fine as it is"
1 Sep 2015, 13:58 PM
#8
avatar of Don'tKnow

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I miss the option: "Its fine as it is"

The reason why i left this one out is simple :

1)It is better than doctrinal "hit the dirt"
2)Can work as a mobile 360° HMG
3)Costs nothing
4)Is practically uncounterable with HMGs or infantry

1 Sep 2015, 14:11 PM
#9
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The reason why i left this one out is simple :

1)It is better than doctrinal "hit the dirt"
2)Can work as a mobile 360° HMG
3)Costs nothing
4)Is practically uncounterable with HMGs or infantry




You forgot :

5)Its USF so we must nerf it
1 Sep 2015, 14:19 PM
#10
avatar of Bad_Vader

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The reason why i left this one out is simple :

1)It is better than doctrinal "hit the dirt"
2)Can work as a mobile 360° HMG
3)Costs nothing
4)Is practically uncounterable with HMGs or infantry


Still should have a reason to put "Its fine as is".

/rant or sarcasm. I can't tell the difference anymore
Also:
1.The gren have lmg upgrade while cons don't have it. We should totally nerf grens right?
2. The kubel works as a very mobile 360° HMG also, although a bit slower at turning. Should we also talk about how to nerf it?
3. So does some of the most destructive abilities *cough* sturmtiger *cough*. So nerf also yes?
4. Ost turbo mortar works or not attacking head on or use 2 squads like what sov players have been doing since the beginning of CoH2 against HMG42.
/end rant or sarcasm

Seriously the commander it's in isn't exactly the top pick in 1v1/2v2. Let it stay as is, it needs the incentive.
1 Sep 2015, 14:30 PM
#11
avatar of Don'tKnow

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DONT VOTE OR SHARE YOUR OPINION IF YOU HAVENT PLAYED OR ENCOUNTERED DEFENSIVE STANCE ABUSE

*Edit:I only want to get constructive and unbiased opinions




1 Sep 2015, 14:39 PM
#12
avatar of Swift

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Poll is rigged, no option for "I regularly abuse defensive stance." :snfPeter:
1 Sep 2015, 14:55 PM
#13
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GUISE I AM ONLY INTERESTED IN UNBIASED OPINIONS THAT HAPPEN TO COINCIDE WITH MY OWN VIEWS. IF YOU DO NOT HAVE SUCH OPINIONS PLEASE DO NOT POST. THIS IS A PLACE FOR FAIR AND OPEN DISCUSSION.
1 Sep 2015, 15:02 PM
#14
avatar of Don'tKnow

Posts: 225 | Subs: 1

Look,you and a few other posters have rarely played with usf
DrChengele: USF 1vs1 17 games ...
Bad_Vader: 1vs1 2 games, 4vs4 19 games ...
Nothing more to add here
1 Sep 2015, 16:05 PM
#15
avatar of Just easy

Posts: 110

Wait, their opinions aren't valid because they don't play as usf much? that doesn't make much sense as they might play against usf a lot.

Anyway I do agree that it's obviously broken as is, needs either a noticeable cooldown, so that if the opponent throws a grenade as soon as you activate it, your only options are to eat the nade or retreat. Or only activate it out of combat.
1 Sep 2015, 16:14 PM
#16
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This shit is mad Chessy... Don't even like using infantry anymore because of this.

It's a good ability without being "offensive stance"
1 Sep 2015, 16:16 PM
#17
avatar of Don'tKnow

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Okay sry was my fault of course i cant judge others like that but it really upsets me when people come here,have in general low playing experience,dont read and post their biased opinions.
1 Sep 2015, 16:17 PM
#18
avatar of Don'tKnow

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This shit is mad Chessy... Don't even like using infantry anymore because of this.

It's a good ability without being "offensive stance"

CookiezNcreem thx have waited for you since nobody can say you are pro axis :D
1 Sep 2015, 16:26 PM
#19
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Seriously the commander it's in isn't exactly the top pick in 1v1/2v2. Let it stay as is, it needs the incentive.


Ignoring the other drivel you posted that has nothing to do with the 30 cals, you are completely wrong.

Everyone and their mother are using infantry company of armour in 1s and 2s, and the 30 cals being batshit cheesy are the reason. It is exactly the top pick, and just because you personally believe other stuff in the commander is crap, doesn't justify an ability being op. That's dumb balancing.
1 Sep 2015, 17:33 PM
#20
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CookiezNcreem thx have waited for you since nobody can say you are pro axis :D



:sibHyena:

I'm pro balance, I'm just a fanboy,I promise
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