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Relic cares so much about COH1

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4 Aug 2015, 14:29 PM
#1
avatar of Arashenstein

Posts: 249

as the title says it is true they do care so much about coh1 because it is the number 1 threat to COH2, if this game gets out of its steam edition bugs without doubt coh2 goes down so fast.

i play coh1 time to time like once or twice in a month but not because i dont have that much time to play, because game is completely unplayable for me after battle server migration. i am not saying i have the best internet but since when in a competitive game like RTS games if lag happens it only happens to you and game goes on for your enemy without issues. every bloody time i play i have 10-20 seconds freezes but game goes on for my enemy while i am froze then suddenly game resumes but i see everything in 16x speed and what do i see? all my units being killed and raped and the noob winning the game typing me "L2P NOOB HAHA I OWNED YOU CUM BACK"! in the past before this migration there was really really tiny lags and freezes under 1 second for both sides and game was still playable but now they have imported a first person shooter game like netcode for an RTS.

Ranking system is broken + leaderboards are messed up + netcode is a joke (GOD) + 2v2 AT Is dead + %90 of players are people who are starting up the game for first time in their life in team matches and so many other stupid stuff....

people say you have to be thankful to relic that they kept the game alive after the main server shut down, but in fact i think the opposite it was better if they had let it die just like all C&C titles after gamespy server shutdown. you know why? because those games actually didn't die they got revived for C&C 3 + Battlefield 2 + Red alert 3 + zero hour and many other C&C titles the community created a 3rd party software called CNConline (For BF2 it is called Bf2Hub) and not only without any patch or mod the game works online without issues but they also added anti cheat softwares to it too. you dont need "LAN" option to play those games they exactly work like before nothing has changed you go to online ranked you play ranked vs others you gain and lose rank and everything is exactly same as it used to be before.

but for coh1.... sorry relic made a pay2win game named coh2 they need to sell all those DLC commanders and armies and mini skirmish missions because they need the money for their job, days and nights working on "paid skins" deserves money more than every other thing which was done for COH1. and before you fan boys start to flame me and say coh2 is not pay to win or whatever let me tell u pay 2 win does not mean when you buy a commander there is a "win" icon appearing on top of screen and when you press it game ends. if you are not stupid you know what it is, any game changing unit + item + bulletin which comes with real money is paid to win. for example X DLC commander is alot easier to play with versus USA than Y DLC commander vs US < this is what pay 2 win means the commander doesnt need to be OP it only has to give you easier time in certain situation.

a true competitive game has NO unlocks NO dlc NO paid game changing item or DLC just like counter strike or Dota 2 and the original COH1 or other games like those. conditions should be same for ALL players and what decides the battle result is skill and micro not unlock progress or game changing create drop (srsly wtf relic) or paid DLCs.

i said what i wanted to say so you coh 2 fan boys can:

Beat me, hate me
You can never break me
Will me, thrill me
You can never kill me
Jew me, sue me
Everybody do me
Kick me, kike me
Don't you noob or pro me

All I wanna say is that
They don't really care about us
4 Aug 2015, 14:32 PM
#2
avatar of eddycyf

Posts: 6

Commanders destroied this game, relic just care about how much they can sell, they never give a shit with the balance from the begining. Each update will make a unit become vey op, I even suspect will relic balancers play this game online.
4 Aug 2015, 14:36 PM
#3
avatar of wuff

Posts: 1534 | Subs: 1

Lot's of competitive games have DLC, it is however just cosmetics.

Relic made a mistake with DLC commanders but these days they rarely make any difference to the game, most of the vanilla commanders are fine or better than the DLC ones and since commanders now drop from warspoils it isn't that much of a problem.

I don't think fixing vCOH would threaten COH2, they're not the same game.





4 Aug 2015, 14:57 PM
#4
avatar of CieZ

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Do like the aoe2 community did. Make your own patches, servers, matchmaking, etc.

Crying on these forums isn't going to get you anywhere. Want coh1 to be successful? Go do something about it.
4 Aug 2015, 15:00 PM
#5
avatar of Corsin

Posts: 600

Coh1 was a good game, but Coh2 is better in many ways...


4 Aug 2015, 15:04 PM
#6
avatar of bulatcr

Posts: 142

grabbing some popcorn...
new episode is coming out: ciez vs inverse, and others
4 Aug 2015, 15:18 PM
#8
avatar of __deleted__

Posts: 830

jump backJump back to quoted post4 Aug 2015, 14:57 PMCieZ
Do like the aoe2 community did. Make your own patches, servers, matchmaking, etc.

Crying on these forums isn't going to get you anywhere. Want coh1 to be successful? Go do something about it.


They actually did that hahaha? xd
4 Aug 2015, 15:33 PM
#9
avatar of Arashenstein

Posts: 249

jump backJump back to quoted post4 Aug 2015, 15:00 PMCorsin
Coh1 was a good game, but Coh2 is better in many ways...




COH2 is call of duty of RTS genere it is made for people who can not micro who have no skill who have no brain and only shit they should do is to grab some DLC and spam the fuck out of the game exactly like PE and brits were in COH1, two fucking stupid factions made for retards who could not learn the original game so they had to give them something super easy to boost the player base with casual players and get more money.

yep i have friends who were super noob in coh1 and they say coh2 is AWESOME compared to coh1 because they have so many chances to win in coh2 without usin micro and skill only blob the fuck out of the game and win. the PTRS patch was great example of how coh2 is awesome they wanted to sell that useless soviet commander so yea lets buff the PTRS and fuck up the game and get $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

call of duty is the most popular + selling game every year but does it mean it is a good game? the problem is casual players are always outnumbering competitive players, and by that i do not mean people who care about tournaments and shits like that, i mean people who want a game which you should LEARN it first then PRACTICE and then test your skill versus others and learn by LOSING.

CieZ i am surprised you are strategy specialist i did not know strategy even exists in coh2. it is like seeing someone in in CoD being "recoil specialist"
4 Aug 2015, 15:39 PM
#10
avatar of Von Kluge
Patrion 14

Posts: 3548 | Subs: 2

Can we not let this thread dwindle down into a coh1 fanboys bashing coh2 fanboys fest?
Honestly, there's plenty of space available to make coh1 and coh2 players live alongside each other peacefuly rather than having a go at each other about which game is the best and why.

pls play nice guys.
4 Aug 2015, 15:41 PM
#11
avatar of AvNY

Posts: 862

I am a huge COH1 fan. And I still play it, a lot more than you apparently. (several times a week).

But don't concern yourself about COH1 when it comes to Relic. Just accept that they earn almost nothing from it and hence have no incentive to make it any better.

Play it or move on is the best I can offer.

If you are religious, pary that he guides Relic towards better COH2 design or a COH3 that is more akin to COH1. unfortunately crying or complaining won't help and will just frustrate you.
4 Aug 2015, 15:43 PM
#12
avatar of wuff

Posts: 1534 | Subs: 1



COH2 is call of duty of RTS genere it is made for people who can not micro who have no skill who have no brain and only shit they should do is to grab some DLC and spam the fuck out of the game exactly like PE and brits were in COH1, two fucking stupid factions made for retards who could not learn the original game so they had to give them something super easy to boost the player base with casual players and get more money.

yep i have friends who were super noob in coh1 and they say coh2 is AWESOME compared to coh1 because they have so many chances to win in coh2 without usin micro and skill only blob the fuck out of the game and win. the PTRS patch was great example of how coh2 is awesome they wanted to sell that useless soviet commander so yea lets buff the PTRS and fuck up the game and get $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

call of duty is the most popular + selling game every year but does it mean it is a good game? the problem is casual players are always outnumbering competitive players, and by that i do not mean people who care about tournaments and shits like that, i mean people who want a game which you should LEARN it first then PRACTICE and then test your skill versus others and learn by LOSING.

CieZ i am surprised you are strategy specialist i did not know strategy even exists in coh2. it is like seeing someone in in CoD being "recoil specialist"


:guyokay:
4 Aug 2015, 15:53 PM
#13
avatar of Corsin

Posts: 600



COH2 is call of duty of RTS genere it is made for people who can not micro who have no skill who have no brain and only shit they should do is to grab some DLC and spam the fuck out of the game exactly like PE and brits were in COH1, two fucking stupid factions made for retards who could not learn the original game so they had to give them something super easy to boost the player base with casual players and get more money.

yep i have friends who were super noob in coh1 and they say coh2 is AWESOME compared to coh1 because they have so many chances to win in coh2 without usin micro and skill only blob the fuck out of the game and win. the PTRS patch was great example of how coh2 is awesome they wanted to sell that useless soviet commander so yea lets buff the PTRS and fuck up the game and get $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

call of duty is the most popular + selling game every year but does it mean it is a good game? the problem is casual players are always outnumbering competitive players, and by that i do not mean people who care about tournaments and shits like that, i mean people who want a game which you should LEARN it first then PRACTICE and then test your skill versus others and learn by LOSING.

CieZ i am surprised you are strategy specialist i did not know strategy even exists in coh2. it is like seeing someone in in CoD being "recoil specialist"


2 words...

FENCE JUMPING
4 Aug 2015, 15:55 PM
#14
avatar of awa59noob
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Posts: 152

Some people have a very romantic way of seeing things. Without a doubt relic made mistakes with coh2, but they have to find a solution to keep a company alive with a very niche product. This means getting more from customers than every 2 years 20 Dollar (Addon). That is a fact. The industry slogan "gaming as a service" may have had a few bad decissions as a result, but that is life. Relic just can´t support coh1 indefinitely and yes probably, they dont want to compete with their own product.

This in mind, i prefere to stay positive with relic and will support coh2, coh1 is imho the past - a very nice and dear one but still past and gone....

Come to the darkside of coh2 - we have cookies - and you might like it ;)



4 Aug 2015, 16:00 PM
#15
avatar of Von Kluge
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Some people have a very romantic way of seeing things. Without a doubt relic made mistakes with coh2, but they have to find a solution to keep a company alive with a very niche product. This means getting more from customers than every 2 years 20 Dollar (Addon). That is a fact. The industry slogan "gaming as a service" may have had a few bad decissions as a result, but that is life. Relic just can´t support coh1 indefinitely and yes probably, they dont want to compete with their own product.

This in mind, i prefere to stay positive with relic and will support coh2, coh1 is imho the past - a very nice and dear one but still past and gone....

Come to the darkside of coh2 - we have cookies - and you might like it ;)





Amen
4 Aug 2015, 16:03 PM
#16
avatar of AvNY

Posts: 862

I will probably come when the final USF changes show up.

And just as I was getting kind of decent at COH1. :(

4 Aug 2015, 16:04 PM
#17
avatar of FichtenMoped
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Some people have a very romantic way of seeing things. Without a doubt relic made mistakes with coh2, but they have to find a solution to keep a company alive with a very niche product. This means getting more from customers than every 2 years 20 Dollar (Addon). That is a fact. The industry slogan "gaming as a service" may have had a few bad decissions as a result, but that is life. Relic just can´t support coh1 indefinitely and yes probably, they dont want to compete with their own product.

This in mind, i prefere to stay positive with relic and will support coh2, coh1 is imho the past - a very nice and dear one but still past and gone....

Come to the darkside of coh2 - we have cookies - and you might like it ;)





+1 as well!

Btw: You need to update your signature a bit :P
4 Aug 2015, 16:05 PM
#18
avatar of CieZ

Posts: 1468 | Subs: 4



They actually did that hahaha? xd


Yup. Go check out voobly.

The smash scene also did it. Project M.

But people like Arash would, apparently, rather cry about coh2 than do anything positive for coh1.
4 Aug 2015, 16:06 PM
#19
avatar of Von Kluge
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jump backJump back to quoted post4 Aug 2015, 16:05 PMCieZ



But people like Arash would, apparently, rather cry about coh2 than do anything positive for coh1.

No baiterino please :)
4 Aug 2015, 16:07 PM
#20
avatar of SturmTigerGaddafi
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*Anxiously awaits Inverse and Nekron appearances in dis thread* #MVGame
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