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Riddle me this, Riddle me King Tiger

30 Jun 2015, 23:08 PM
#1
avatar of Francis

Posts: 61

Was watching a 4v4 live, when I notice a guy playing OKW and Elite Armored. He already had enough fuel for a PIV combat group and he also had a full hp KT on the field. So far, so kappa... What surprised me was that instead of the pivs, he goes for a 2nd KT!

Now, i'm not the best player in this game (yet :snfPeter: ), but I do pay attention to the patches, and I do recall there being a limit to Heavy Armor somewhere around last (major :snfBarton: ) patch.

Option 1: Relic pleaserinno fixerinno :snfQuinn: ???

Option 2: Working as intended :snfPeter: ???

Option 3: OKW is "special" :snfBarton: ???
30 Jun 2015, 23:11 PM
#2
avatar of broodwarjc

Posts: 824

30 Jun 2015, 23:37 PM
#3
avatar of Corsin

Posts: 600

OKW has to TECH for the KT, and its 260 OKW fuel.... (346.6 normal fuel)

The KT as a unit UNDER PERFORMS heavily... is easily defeated if unsupported by 1 T34 and 1 Su85 + marked target.

If a player gets 2 KTs... then he bloody well deserves it, to accumulate 693.2 fuel AFTER teching, and youre still in the game as OKW then yeah you sorta deserve the win.

Stop being silly and make posts that matter.
30 Jun 2015, 23:46 PM
#4
avatar of Napalm

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Anybody remember the same arguments with the Tiger Ace when it was first released? I do.

The answer is option 3.
30 Jun 2015, 23:51 PM
#5
avatar of AchtAchter

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Honestly I think the KT is a noobtrap and limiting would actually help players to improve their play.
On the other hand no stock unit in game is limited and I don't see the reason why OKW should suffer under this. If relic intended in doing so, they would've started with snipers long ago.
1 Jul 2015, 00:02 AM
#6
avatar of c r u C e

Posts: 525

Even if OKW has problems with getting fuel,patch specificaly told that "All Heavy Armor/Tanks is limmited to one"...
1 Jul 2015, 00:04 AM
#7
avatar of turbotortoise

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isn't there language specifically limited to "call in armour" or the like.
1 Jul 2015, 00:08 AM
#8
avatar of c r u C e

Posts: 525

It's not a call-in,but still it's a HEAVY TANK and being able to field two is clearly an advantage over...a faction that has no heavy tank+ a faction that is limited to one
1 Jul 2015, 00:25 AM
#9
avatar of turbotortoise

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It's not a call-in,but still it's a HEAVY TANK and being able to field two is clearly an advantage over...a faction that has no heavy tank+ a faction that is limited to one


not necessarily. it's about faction design. they each have different ways to handle specific tactical scenarios.

it is in essence a sherman bulldozer that can also at like a more cumbersome 57mm without too much fear of melting.
1 Jul 2015, 01:11 AM
#10
avatar of AchtAchter

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Even if OKW has problems with getting fuel,patch specificaly told that "All Heavy Armor/Tanks is limmited to one"...


read :

Super Heavy Call in Vehicles (Tiger, Tiger Ace, Elefant, IS2, ISU, Jadgtiger, Sturmtiger, KV2)
Limited to having only 1 on the field


Rethink your statement.
1 Jul 2015, 02:15 AM
#11
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Honestly I think the KT is a noobtrap and limiting would actually help players to improve their play.
On the other hand no stock unit in game is limited and I don't see the reason why OKW should suffer under this. If relic intended in doing so, they would've started with snipers long ago.

IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO START
1 Jul 2015, 19:00 PM
#12
avatar of c r u C e

Posts: 525



read :



Rethink your statement.


.....advice:read my ==>OTHER post
1 Jul 2015, 19:31 PM
#13
avatar of MediumGray

Posts: 17

If he can get 2 KTs on the field at the same time you deserve to lose. It's been said a lot more times. Have you noticed that OKW has a lower fuel income? Eh? How many times have you encountered 2 KTs at the same time?
1 Jul 2015, 19:42 PM
#14
avatar of Australian Magic

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If he can get 2 KTs on the field at the same time you deserve to lose. It's been said a lot more times. Have you noticed that OKW has a lower fuel income? Eh? How many times have you encountered 2 KTs at the same time?


He's reffering to 4v4 games, not 1v1/2v2 and in 4v4 you can get second KT before 30min.
1 Jul 2015, 19:48 PM
#15
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He's reffering to 4v4 games, not 1v1/2v2 and in 4v4 you can get second KT before 30min.


When you get massively outplayed, then indeed its possible.
1 Jul 2015, 20:12 PM
#16
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When you get massively outplayed, then indeed its possible.


It has nothing to do with being outplayed, it's normal thing to get KT at 16 or Panther at 12.
1 Jul 2015, 20:21 PM
#17
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If they're going for dbl KT, then rush the initial KT if you notice he doesn't have anything else armor wise really supporting it. :foreveralone:
1 Jul 2015, 20:24 PM
#18
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It has nothing to do with being outplayed, it's normal thing to get KT at 16 or Panther at 12.


If you opponent has double fuel + caches on every point + fuel conversion then something may have gone wrong on your end also:

If they're going for dbl KT, then rush the initial KT if you notice he doesn't have anything else armor wise really supporting it. :foreveralone:


a rushed KT with no support is a very, very dead KT.
1 Jul 2015, 21:25 PM
#19
avatar of Australian Magic

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Guys, guys, it's 4v4, not 2v2. One guy goes for double KT, 3 support him.
1 Jul 2015, 22:39 PM
#20
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If he actually went 2 KTs, that means he spend 52 of his pop cap (2x 26) on 2 units. No matter the situation, that only works in 4v4 xd
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