ISU-152
19 Nov 2014, 18:35 PM
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Making separate threads since I think they merit separate discussion and voting. Is the ISU-152 balanced now? Post replays! Please don't vote without testing the changes!
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19 Nov 2014, 18:38 PM
#2
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played about 7 games using the ISU and one game facing the ISU. I think it is balanced now. Needs more babysitting in regards to switching shells, since the different ammo types have noticeable differences. It is not the change i would have preferred, but it should be less OP now.
Axis doesn't have the best AT options in the game
19 Nov 2014, 18:40 PM
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Well, its not 'always anti all' anymore and at any given time there is a hardcounter that you can just frontally bumrush.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
19 Nov 2014, 19:03 PM
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It was a great change, but the unit is still over performing. I have tested it in like 6 games post patch and it's not that hard to switch the ammo when facing different targets. Its accuracy against infantry is still too high and a lot of insta-wipes happen. Personally I didn't have problem with it being an Anti-Everything unit. The only thing that bugged me (and still does) is the no warning insta-wipes. I think either the accuracy or the AoE should get nerfed. With the new cover system (which is great) Axis have hard time playing late game.
19 Nov 2014, 19:12 PM
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If you vote no, please consider posting suggestions of your own! 
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19 Nov 2014, 19:12 PM
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It can still squad wipe with he rounds which is the main concern. It needs a scatter nerf
19 Nov 2014, 21:17 PM
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It wipes inf? Attack with tank. It penetrates tanks? Go with schrecks blob.
It should be like that.
It should be like that.
20 Nov 2014, 06:08 AM
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It wipes inf? Attack with tank. It penetrates tanks? Go with schrecks blob.
It should be like that.
Or why not both. Isu has to decide which ammo to fire
Axis doesn't have the best AT options in the game
20 Nov 2014, 06:26 AM
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It is very good now. Have faced it few times and used it once after patch.
It still has potential if covered well. If not, then you can really surprise it with its pants down.
It still has potential if covered well. If not, then you can really surprise it with its pants down.
20 Nov 2014, 06:27 AM
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Or why not both. Isu has to decide which ammo to fire
It's not that big of a deal really. The problem was (and still is) accuracy and damage against infantry. Reduce the AoE and increase the scatter.
20 Nov 2014, 06:29 AM
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It's not that big of a deal really. The problem was (and still is) accuracy and damage against infantry. Reduce the AoE and increase the scatter.
i was always wondering why they couldnt keep the old isu but making it less accurate versus infantry. Seems like it is a lot easier to implement
Axis doesn't have the best AT options in the game
20 Nov 2014, 07:18 AM
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Or why not both. Isu has to decide which ammo to fire
That was my point, ammo. You have figue out what shells are in use.
20 Nov 2014, 08:21 AM
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i was always wondering why they couldnt keep the old isu but making it less accurate versus infantry. Seems like it is a lot easier to implement
Not just easier, but also better balance-wise IMO. Look at IS2 for example, it's good against both armor and infantry, but its not like ISU (I know the guns are different and everything, I'm just talking about balance here). It does sometimes wipe infantry but not that often, so you have time to react.
20 Nov 2014, 08:31 AM
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Voted no due to it's ability to squad wipe with one shot, far too often. Everything else is fine, I don't think this can be fixed though. It either needs to be all AT or all AI, not both even with the switch of ammo. It's just too good at both.
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20 Nov 2014, 08:51 AM
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I think its AI is still too good, especially with the new squad cover behaviour. And contrary to Ele/JT, it is always useful, due to its anti-everything-design. No matter where it is, it can always wreak havoc.
20 Nov 2014, 09:17 AM
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It is an improvement over the previous design but still needs tweaks regarding its AI abilities which are too potent.
20 Nov 2014, 09:35 AM
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Too accurate
20 Nov 2014, 09:39 AM
#18
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Well, its not 'always anti all' anymore and at any given time there is a hardcounter that you can just frontally bumrush.
Please tell me what this counter is, that is available at "any given time"
20 Nov 2014, 09:49 AM
#19
Posts: 107
A bit off topic but where are these changes mentioned?
Had a game with the ISU last night and it felt completely off, was asking the rest players if it was changed an everybody was no, it was not.
Had a game with the ISU last night and it felt completely off, was asking the rest players if it was changed an everybody was no, it was not.
20 Nov 2014, 11:08 AM
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A bit off topic but where are these changes mentioned?
Had a game with the ISU last night and it felt completely off, was asking the rest players if it was changed an everybody was no, it was not.
It was a ninja change. Nothing is really changed, but now you have to chose ammo type for ISU (HE or AT shells) which has a 11 seconds cool down.
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