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And that's also why soviets is giving axis shitty headaches across all game modes
cons maxim Zis spam into ISU152
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Wow, you just suggested 6 DOCTRINAL counters to this unit. Any unit in the game should be counterable with nondoctrinal units, because otherwise you are just feeding the call-in meta problem. In terms of bleeding manpower, good luck attacking infantry with anything that won't be countered by the tiger ace. Hell, any non-doctrinal AT counter gets absolutely murdered by the Tiger Ace. SU-85s and jackson can get hit by target weak point, and then they are dead. AT guns will get sniped quite handily, especially since the zis only has about a 60% chance to penetrate the thing.
I would be fine with the tiger ace if it actually required a fuel investment. It does not. Do not point out the reduced income after it is called in. The reduced income is balanced out by the fact that you can still purchase other armor before the tiger ace, and that you will be destroying your opponents army and manpower income with the ace. At the very least, I feel that the tiger ace income reduction should also last for 5 minutes after the tank dies.
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That is only in 1v1... Axis dominate in every mode over 1v1. Soviets are only doing well do to weird unconventional units like snipers, m3+flamer and OP ISU and MG spam. THe things that are supposed to be doing the bulk of the fighting stink like Cons and Guards.
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Allies "dominate" in 2v2 more than anything. Well, "dominate" is saying too much, it is by no means a foregone conclusion, but win ratios at the higher levels of play are definetly in their favour. I concur with you though that Cons could need a little love, still, con builds can be played very successfully in 1v1.
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Jinseual, surely you meant that you play 1v1s and that only 1v1 is even close to being balanced, right? Because what you wrote is nonsense.
I haven't faced a TA in forever, but I could see where they may still cause some players trouble.
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I played a lot of 1v1s in automatch and custom games before, but not anymore because my computer can no longer play CoH2 with reasonable fps anymore since every update ruins the game's optimization. However, I still play this game a lot and watch a lot of streams on 1v1s so I do understand the units, the tech routes and strategies. I have not played 1v1 for while, but don't be too quick with your assumptions in thinking I know nothing about 1v1s even if I never played a 1v1 game.
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T34/76 is NOT a joke on my hands; Maybe on your hands you make it suck shit? but on me, No. I can kill a stug with a little micro, go toe to toe with a Panzer 4. Is it a joke? LOL T34/85 is apparently a very good tank. But no one says it "one hit wipe" or elefant penetration; up to a point i think this little medium tank just have too much health and too much firepower with that fuel cost.
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I'd say all heavies ruin the game, once they start appearing on the field the game becomes incredibly boring.
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It's like super intense with T34's, P4's, Panthers, ..Nailed it.
Aaaaaand there they are, KT JT and ISU... Same old, same gardening old..
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I never see Tiger aces anymore, but I usually play any game mode that's not 1v1. Maybe the Tiger Ace is a problem in 1v1s but 1v1s is not well balanced anyways. There are flaws in the Tiger Ace doctrine which the allies can exploit. The Elite doctrine does not have any offmap counters to artillery so the artillery can work well against them. They also can't counter an ISU152 which like you said with the Tiger ace can counter everything but with 70 range instead of 50. If you feel like you're going to get abused by a Tiger Ace just abuse the player back with some ISUs.
Nerfing Tiger Ace? Again? What would you like to have instead? A Panzer 4? Would that be fine for you?
Now seriously, you guys can't mean it. There are threads that request nerfs that are somwhat logical: kubel, JagdTiger, ISU. But Tiger Ace? That thing was nerfed in the past. They even added an mp cost for it. AND it comes with penalty for the player who use it.
Actually, regular Tiger needs a little buff. IS2 owns it almost every time.
What's with this nerfing threads anyway? So much bias. Next time I see such a thing I will pick an Allied unit that ennoy me the most and start a nurfing thread.
Basicaly, L2P.
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show ur player card before you tell me to l2p. who knows, maybe its because im not facing you, thats why i've got tiger ace problems. maybe if i faced you, i'd get more wins than losses.
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