If you have about 500 ammo, you'll be able to drop enough 105 shells on an American base to level it or at least kill 3 buildings. All it takes is a puma to slip through the lines and pop a gg.
Just a tip
500 ammo + Scavenger = gg
26 Jul 2014, 01:07 AM
#1
Posts: 395
I bought vCoH on January 3rd, 2007.
Still missing the days of vCoH 1.71. It had it's issues, like paks sniping 57s, and the strafe didn't work, but overall, it was probably the most balanced time in CoH history.
OF ruined that. CoH 2 is....balanced in a nasty way. Everyone has an equal stockpile of gamebreaking bullshit. USA is full of early game BS while the OKW doesn't get its BS until late game. It's just a question of how badly you exploit the faction's shit and how quickly, after a patch, you discover the gaping holes of bullshit Relic leaves. But either way, it's all BS. The only "BS" in vCoH that was gamechanging was the fast m8 vs a bunker.
Still missing the days of vCoH 1.71. It had it's issues, like paks sniping 57s, and the strafe didn't work, but overall, it was probably the most balanced time in CoH history.
OF ruined that. CoH 2 is....balanced in a nasty way. Everyone has an equal stockpile of gamebreaking bullshit. USA is full of early game BS while the OKW doesn't get its BS until late game. It's just a question of how badly you exploit the faction's shit and how quickly, after a patch, you discover the gaping holes of bullshit Relic leaves. But either way, it's all BS. The only "BS" in vCoH that was gamechanging was the fast m8 vs a bunker.
26 Jul 2014, 01:21 AM
#2
Posts: 1248
i have a good feeling that this was a rage thread. If he had 500 ammo he probably wasnt spamming mines like other 1v1 players.
26 Jul 2014, 01:59 AM
#3
Posts: 612
Its still a problem lol. I guess they just need to tone down the damage vs buildings per shell to stop it
26 Jul 2014, 02:28 AM
#4
Posts: 395
I did it as OKW to a hard AI; no rage just a tip
I found it out incidentally because I have the AI baselocked
I found it out incidentally because I have the AI baselocked
I bought vCoH on January 3rd, 2007.
Still missing the days of vCoH 1.71. It had it's issues, like paks sniping 57s, and the strafe didn't work, but overall, it was probably the most balanced time in CoH history.
OF ruined that. CoH 2 is....balanced in a nasty way. Everyone has an equal stockpile of gamebreaking bullshit. USA is full of early game BS while the OKW doesn't get its BS until late game. It's just a question of how badly you exploit the faction's shit and how quickly, after a patch, you discover the gaping holes of bullshit Relic leaves. But either way, it's all BS. The only "BS" in vCoH that was gamechanging was the fast m8 vs a bunker.
Still missing the days of vCoH 1.71. It had it's issues, like paks sniping 57s, and the strafe didn't work, but overall, it was probably the most balanced time in CoH history.
OF ruined that. CoH 2 is....balanced in a nasty way. Everyone has an equal stockpile of gamebreaking bullshit. USA is full of early game BS while the OKW doesn't get its BS until late game. It's just a question of how badly you exploit the faction's shit and how quickly, after a patch, you discover the gaping holes of bullshit Relic leaves. But either way, it's all BS. The only "BS" in vCoH that was gamechanging was the fast m8 vs a bunker.
26 Jul 2014, 02:35 AM
#5
Posts: 211
Just out of curiosity, could someone describe or post a screenshot of the artillery radius as you're selecting it?
26 Jul 2014, 03:14 AM
#6
Posts: 1144 | Subs: 7
Just out of curiosity, could someone describe or post a screenshot of the artillery radius as you're selecting it?
its slightly bigger than the US base
26 Jul 2014, 04:01 AM
#7
Posts: 1384
This is how the game should be.
Buildings should not be invincible, just secure from infantry pushes. These stupid "Shoot down all planes, rotate 360 degrees, do light AV damage enough to scare anything that isn't a medium tank and no artillery zones" are casual as fuck.
Buildings should not be invincible, just secure from infantry pushes. These stupid "Shoot down all planes, rotate 360 degrees, do light AV damage enough to scare anything that isn't a medium tank and no artillery zones" are casual as fuck.
26 Jul 2014, 09:45 AM
#8
Posts: 1701
Just out of curiosity, could someone describe or post a screenshot of the artillery radius as you're selecting it?
Really, really big
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26 Jul 2014, 16:28 PM
#9
Posts: 2693 | Subs: 1
i have a good feeling that this was a rage thread. If he had 500 ammo he probably wasnt spamming mines like other 1v1 players.
I doubt you will even need 500+ ammo. Unless it is fixed, the scavenger doctrinal artillery is still self-repeating without costing ammo after the first strike. Unless you fully repair your base in between, the repeating strikes will clear out the US base.
In any case, even if it was a rage thread, it would totally legit. The scavenger doctrine doesn't have other ammo consuming abilities, and the surprise grenades are basically free. It's not that hard to save up lots of ammo in the late game with this doctrine because there aren't that many things to spend the ammo on at this stage of the game.
For the sake of balance, this arty should not be usable on base sectors.
26 Jul 2014, 16:34 PM
#10
Posts: 2819
I'd like to see a big red cross when you try to call arty (any arty) on the base of the enemy.
Also with howitzers / b4's / ...
It's so easy to barrage when the enemy is retreating, he just can't do anything if you time the barrage.
Also, incendiary on the base when retreating is a pain.
Support weapons will automatically set their selves up after retreating, and while dancing in the fire, that's not cool.
Also with howitzers / b4's / ...
It's so easy to barrage when the enemy is retreating, he just can't do anything if you time the barrage.
Also, incendiary on the base when retreating is a pain.
Support weapons will automatically set their selves up after retreating, and while dancing in the fire, that's not cool.
All posts made are about situations in 2v2's. Not a 1v1 player.
26 Jul 2014, 16:41 PM
#11
Posts: 2693 | Subs: 1
Support weapons will automatically set their selves up after retreating, and while dancing in the fire, that's not cool.
Only maxims, DHKS, 120mm mortars and the pupchen will do that. And the PAK40 if you managed to get them to retreat using propaganda artillery. So most axis support weapons won't set up in the flames.
26 Jul 2014, 18:09 PM
#12
Posts: 71
Only maxims, DHKS, 120mm mortars and the pupchen will do that. And the PAK40 if you managed to get them to retreat using propaganda artillery. So most axis support weapons won't set up in the flames.
"Only", he says...
I try to play all four factions, but I also try not to wait 10 minutes to play, which has consequences
26 Jul 2014, 18:29 PM
#13
Posts: 2693 | Subs: 1
"Only", he says...
Yes. I said "Only". Out of the 4 support weapons that auto set up, only 1 is axis...
26 Jul 2014, 19:14 PM
#14
Posts: 395
This could very well be a viable strategy in a 4v4 with some OKH trucks and caches
I bought vCoH on January 3rd, 2007.
Still missing the days of vCoH 1.71. It had it's issues, like paks sniping 57s, and the strafe didn't work, but overall, it was probably the most balanced time in CoH history.
OF ruined that. CoH 2 is....balanced in a nasty way. Everyone has an equal stockpile of gamebreaking bullshit. USA is full of early game BS while the OKW doesn't get its BS until late game. It's just a question of how badly you exploit the faction's shit and how quickly, after a patch, you discover the gaping holes of bullshit Relic leaves. But either way, it's all BS. The only "BS" in vCoH that was gamechanging was the fast m8 vs a bunker.
Still missing the days of vCoH 1.71. It had it's issues, like paks sniping 57s, and the strafe didn't work, but overall, it was probably the most balanced time in CoH history.
OF ruined that. CoH 2 is....balanced in a nasty way. Everyone has an equal stockpile of gamebreaking bullshit. USA is full of early game BS while the OKW doesn't get its BS until late game. It's just a question of how badly you exploit the faction's shit and how quickly, after a patch, you discover the gaping holes of bullshit Relic leaves. But either way, it's all BS. The only "BS" in vCoH that was gamechanging was the fast m8 vs a bunker.
26 Jul 2014, 19:44 PM
#15
Posts: 2693 | Subs: 1
This could very well be a viable strategy in a 4v4 with some OKH trucks and caches
I'm not sure, you could blow up someones base, but that won't instantly win the game like in 1v1.
26 Jul 2014, 20:11 PM
#16
Posts: 318
If you nerf it, than let the call in come faster like the phosphorus smoke...
27 Jul 2014, 02:50 AM
#17
Posts: 1144 | Subs: 7
I doubt you will even need 500+ ammo. Unless it is fixed, the scavenger doctrinal artillery is still self-repeating without costing ammo after the first strike. Unless you fully repair your base in between, the repeating strikes will clear out the US base.
In any case, even if it was a rage thread, it would totally legit. The scavenger doctrine doesn't have other ammo consuming abilities, and the surprise grenades are basically free. It's not that hard to save up lots of ammo in the late game with this doctrine because there aren't that many things to spend the ammo on at this stage of the game.
For the sake of balance, this arty should not be usable on base sectors.
actually you need 600-700 ammo stored up to guarantee a base wipe. ~500 will destroy around 2 buildings.
also they fixed the repeating arty bug. havent seen it in many uses of the arty.
30 Jul 2014, 13:30 PM
#18
Posts: 8
Was messing around with US BOs in 1v1 last night and actually had this done to me on Kholodny. He ran 2 pumas at me and 1 of em managed to limp into my base and ended the game via arty.
He hadn't used muni up to that point as far as I could see, just spammed falls to stall and try to hold any sort of map control. He transferred any fuel to muni to afford the arty.
Imo I suppose. It's a lame way to win after an opponent gets outplayed. Probably just not allow it to be used on a base as suggested and the issue is resolved
He hadn't used muni up to that point as far as I could see, just spammed falls to stall and try to hold any sort of map control. He transferred any fuel to muni to afford the arty.
Imo I suppose. It's a lame way to win after an opponent gets outplayed. Probably just not allow it to be used on a base as suggested and the issue is resolved
10 Aug 2014, 03:35 AM
#19
Posts: 2
Was messing around with US BOs in 1v1 last night and actually had this done to me on Kholodny. He ran 2 pumas at me and 1 of em managed to limp into my base and ended the game via arty.
He hadn't used muni up to that point as far as I could see, just spammed falls to stall and try to hold any sort of map control. He transferred any fuel to muni to afford the arty.
Imo I suppose. It's a lame way to win after an opponent gets outplayed. Probably just not allow it to be used on a base as suggested and the issue is resolved
Can i see the replay of what he did, because i'm seriously interested in the Scavenge Doctrine
11 Aug 2014, 04:52 AM
#20
Posts: 467
Was messing around with US BOs in 1v1 last night and actually had this done to me on Kholodny. He ran 2 pumas at me and 1 of em managed to limp into my base and ended the game via arty.
He hadn't used muni up to that point as far as I could see, just spammed falls to stall and try to hold any sort of map control. He transferred any fuel to muni to afford the arty.
Imo I suppose. It's a lame way to win after an opponent gets outplayed. Probably just not allow it to be used on a base as suggested and the issue is resolved
Falls with scavenge doctrine?? Maybe you mean JLI
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