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31 Jul 2014, 16:16 PM
#141
avatar of Affe

Posts: 578

jump backJump back to quoted post31 Jul 2014, 16:05 PMvarunax


A wiki source, really?

The in-game Easy Eight is supposed to mimic a Jumbo with 215 armor vs a Sherman with only 160 armor. It's pretty obvious considering the armor difference.

A pre-Jumbo Easy Eight has nearly the same armor as a regular Sherman (2 inches). Do you not get it yet? There's barely any difference between the Easy Eight with 60mm of armor vs a Sherman with 50mm of armor. The stats you keep posting are Pre-Jumbo Easy Eights that are no different than regular Shermans. Yet in-game there's a huge difference. Put two and two together and what do you get? Oh right, you get an Easy Eight Sherman with Jumbo armor.

Do the math pls.

You are retarded. The armor in game has nothing to do with real armor of the tanks.
They can give the tanks any armor they want in the game.

They very often changes the armor of the IS-2 in the game.Does that mean that the real IS-2 armor also changes?

Bye the way in the game the Elephant has 400 frontal armor and tiger 300. The real tiger had 100mm frontal armor and the real Elephant has 200mm frontal armor. So pls tell me if the Tiger has 300 frontal armor in the game why the Elephant didn t have 600 in the game? In reality the Elphants armor was 2x tigers armor. Elphant has 200 armor too less in the game. DO MATH PLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

M4A3 E2 "Jumbo" Sherman
Country : United States
Role : Medium Tank
Production Date : July 1944
Manufacturer : Fisher Tank Arsenal
Number Produced : 254
Crew : 5
Radio : SCR508 / 528 / 538
Road Speed : 35 Kilometers per Hour
Rough Speed : 22 Kilometers per Hour
Road Range: 161 Kilometers
Off-Road Range: Unknown Kilometers
Engine Name: Ford GAA
Coolant : Water
Cylinders: V-8
Capacity: 18 Liters
Power : 450 hp @ 2600 rpm
Power / Weight Ratio : 10.55 hp per tonne
Transmission : Synchromesh
Gears : 5 Forward / 1 Reverse
Suspenion : Vertical Volute Spring
Fuel Type : Gasoline
Fuel Capacity: 636 Liters
Road Consumption: 3.95 Liters per Kilometer
Off-Road Consumption: Unknown Liters per Kilometer
Length : 7.6 meters
Height : 2.95 meters
Width : 2.93 meters
Weight : 42672 kilograms
Ground Clearance : 43 centimeters
Ground Pressure : 0.997 kg/cm²
Track Links : 79 per track
Track Width : 42.1 centimeters
Track Ground Contact : 373.4 centimeters
Gradiant : 31°
Vertical Obsticle : 0.61 meters
Fording Depth : 0.91 meters
Trench Crossing : 2.3 meters
Turning Radius : 22.5 meters
Main Gun : 75mm M3 L / 40
Gunsight : M.70 F
Primary Magnification : 3x magnification / 12° Field of View
Traverse : 360° (Electric)
Elevation : +25° / -10°
Main Gun Ammo : 104
Secondary Weapons : 1x 7.7mm M1919A4 (Coaxial - 2375 rounds)
1x 7.7mm M1919A4 (Bow - 2375 rounds)
1x 12.7mm M2 HB (AA - 300 rounds)
Hull Front (Upper) : 102mm @ 43°
Hull Front (Lower) : 114mm - 140mm @ 34° - 90°
Hull Sides (Upper) : 76mm @ 90°
Hull Sides (Lower) : 38mm @ 90°
Hull Rear : 38mm @ 68° - 80°
Hull Top : 19mm @ 0° - 7°
Hull Bottom : 13mm - 25mm @ 0°
Turret Front : 152mm @ 45°
Turret Mantlet : 178mm @ 90°
Turret Sides : 152mm @ 85°
Turret Rear : 152mm @ 90°
Turret Top : 25mm @ 0°


M4A3(76)W E8 HVSS Sherman
Country : United States
Role : Medium Tank
Production Date : August 1944
Manufacturer : Fisher Tank Arsenal
Detroit Arsenal
Number Produced : 3142
Crew : 5
Radio : SCR508 / 528 / 538
Road Speed : 42 Kilometers per Hour
Rough Speed : 26 Kilometers per Hour
Road Range: 161 Kilometers
Off-Road Range: Unknown Kilometers
Engine Name: Ford GAA-III
Coolant : Water
Cylinders: V-8
Capacity: 18 Liters
Power : 500 hp @ 2600 rpm
Power / Weight Ratio : 14.86 hp per tonne
Transmission : Synchromesh
Gears : 5 Forward / 1 Reverse
Suspenion : Horizontal Vertical Volute Spring
Fuel Type : Gasoline
Fuel Capacity: 764 Liters
Road Consumption: 4.75 Liters per Kilometer
Off-Road Consumption: Unknown Liters per Kilometer
Length : 7.6 meters
Height : 2.97 meters
Width : 3.1 meters
Weight : 33650 kilograms
Ground Clearance : 43 centimeters
Ground Pressure : 0.772 kg/cm²
Track Links : 79 per track
Track Width : 42.1 centimeters
Track Ground Contact : 373 centimeters
Gradiant : 31°
Vertical Obsticle : 0.6 meters
Fording Depth : 0.91 meters
Trench Crossing : 2.3 meters
Turning Radius : 19 meters
Main Gun : 76mm M1A2 L / 55
Gunsight : M.71 D
Primary Magnification : 5x magnification / 13° Field of View
Traverse : 360° (Electric)
Elevation : +25° / -12°
Main Gun Ammo : 71
Secondary Weapons : 1x 7.7mm M1919A4 (Coaxial - 2375 rounds)
1x 7.7mm M1919A4 (Bow - 2375 rounds)
1x 12.7mm M2 HB (AA - 300 rounds)
Hull Front (Upper) : 64mm @ 43°
Hull Front (Lower) : 51mm - 108mm @ 34° - 90°
Hull Sides (Upper) : 38mm @ 90°
Hull Sides (Lower) : 38mm @ 90°
Hull Rear : 38mm @ 68° - 80°
Hull Top : 19mm @ 0° - 7°
Hull Bottom : 13mm - 25mm @ 0°
Turret Front : 64mm @ 45° - 50°
Turret Mantlet : 89mm @ 90°
Turret Sides : 64mm @ 77° - 90°
Turret Rear : 64mm @ 90°
Turret Top : 25mm @ 0°


The easy eight was produced since August 1944 and Jumbo since July 1944 BEFORE the easy eight. The easy eight with 64mm frontal armor was build after the Jumbo.
31 Jul 2014, 16:23 PM
#142
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Posts: 210

Copying and pasting information doesn't make you any smarter you know? I've been saying this entire time that the Easy Eight is the successor to the Jumbo. Just the fact that 250 Jumbos were ever produced kinda... nevermind lol.

You're hilarious though, I kinda proved my point with sources. You can sit here and copy paste your 5 min google searches for more info. I've been reading up WWII tanks and aircraft for years.
31 Jul 2014, 16:26 PM
#143
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Posts: 578

Here are datas for the older M4A4 Sherman:
Country : United States
Role : Medium Tank
Production Date : July 1942
Manufacturer : Detroit Tank Arsenal
Number Produced : 7499
Crew : 5
Radio : SCR508 / 528 / 538
Road Speed : 40 Kilometers per Hour
Rough Speed : 24 Kilometers per Hour
Road Range: 161 Kilometers
Off-Road Range: Unknown Kilometers
Engine Name: Chrysler A57
Coolant : Water
Cylinders: I-5
Capacity: 20.5 Liters
Power : 425 hp @ 2600 rpm
Power / Weight Ratio : 13.45 hp per tonne
Transmission : Synchromesh
Gears : 5 Forward / 1 Reverse
Suspenion : Vertical Volute Spring
Fuel Type : Gasoline
Fuel Capacity: 636 Liters
Road Consumption: 3.95 Liters per Kilometer
Off-Road Consumption: Unknown Liters per Kilometer
Length : 6.05 meters
Height : 2.74 meters
Width : 2.62 meters
Weight : 31600 kilograms
Ground Clearance : 43 centimeters
Ground Pressure : 0.927 kg/cm²
Track Links : 83 per track
Track Width : 42.1 centimeters
Track Ground Contact : 406.4 centimeters
Gradiant : 31°
Vertical Obsticle : 0.61 meters
Fording Depth : 1.07 meters
Trench Crossing : 2.4 meters
Turning Radius : 21 meters
Main Gun : 75mm M3 L / 40
Gunsight : M.70 F
Primary Magnification : 3x magnification / 12° Field of View
Traverse : 360° (Electric)
Elevation : +25° / -12°
Main Gun Ammo : 97
Secondary Weapons : 1x 7.7mm M1919A4 (Coaxial - 2375 rounds)
1x 7.7mm M1919A4 (Bow - 2375 rounds)
1x 12.7mm M2 HB (AA - 300 rounds)
Hull Front (Upper) : 51mm @ 34°
Hull Front (Lower) : 51mm @ 45° - 90°
Hull Sides (Upper) : 38mm @ 90°
Hull Sides (Lower) : 38mm @ 90°
Hull Rear : 38mm @ 70° - 90°
Hull Top : 19mm @ 0° - 7°
Hull Bottom : 13mm - 25mm @ 0°
Turret Front : 76mm @ 60°
Turret Mantlet : 89mm @ 90°
Turret Sides : 51mm @ 85°
Turret Rear : 51mm @ 90°
Turret Top : 25mm @ 0°

Here is Pershing :- (most of them were produced after the war)

M26 Pershing
Country : United States
Role : Heavy Tank
Production Date : November 1944
Manufacturer : Fisher Tank Arsenal
Detroit Tank Arsenal
Number Produced : 2222
Crew : 5
Radio : SCR 508 / 528
Road Speed : 40 Kilometers per Hour
Rough Speed : 25 Kilometers per Hour
Road Range: 161 Kilometers
Off-Road Range: Unknown Kilometers
Engine Name: Ford GAF
Coolant : Water
Cylinders: V-8
Capacity: 18 Liters
Power : 500 hp @ 2600 rpm
Power / Weight Ratio : 11.93 hp per tonne
Transmission : Torqmatic
Gears : 3 Forward / 1 Reverse
Suspenion : Torsion Bar
Fuel Type : Gasoline
Fuel Capacity: 832 Liters
Road Consumption: 5.17 Liters per Kilometer
Off-Road Consumption: Unknown Liters per Kilometer
Length : 8.65 meters
Height : 2.78 meters
Width : 3.51 meters
Weight : 41900 kilograms
Ground Clearance : 44 centimeters
Ground Pressure : 0.878 kg/cm²
Track Links : 82 per track
Track Width : 61 centimeters
Track Ground Contact : 395 centimeters
Gradiant : 31°
Vertical Obsticle : 1.17 meters
Fording Depth : 1.22 meters
Trench Crossing : 2.44 meters
Turning Radius : 18.3 meters
Main Gun : 90mm M3 L / 52
Gunsight : M.10 C
Primary Magnification : 1x magnification / 45° Field of View
Secondary Magnification : 6x magnification / 11° Field of View
Traverse : 360°
Elevation : +20° / -10°
Main Gun Ammo : 70
Secondary Weapons : 1x 7.7mm M1919A4 (Coaxial - 2500 each)
1x 7.7mm M1919A4 (Bow - 2500 rounds)
1x 12.7mm M2 HB (AA - 550 rounds)
Hull Front (Upper) : 102mm @ 44°
Hull Front (Lower) : 76mm @ 37°
Hull Sides (Upper) : 76mm @ 90° & 51mm @ 90°
Hull Sides (Lower) : 76mm @ 90° & 51mm @ 90°
Hull Rear : 51mm @ 80° & 19mm @ 28°
Hull Top : 22mm @ 0°
Hull Bottom : 25mm @ 0° & 13mm @ 0°
Turret Front : 102mm @ 90°
Turret Mantlet : 114mm @ 90°
Turret Sides : 76mm @ 82° - 90°
Turret Rear : 76mm @ 85° - 90°
Turret Top : 25mm @ 0°

31 Jul 2014, 16:28 PM
#144
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Posts: 578

jump backJump back to quoted post31 Jul 2014, 16:23 PMvarunax
Copying and pasting information doesn't make you any smarter you know? I've been saying this entire time that the Easy Eight is the successor to the Jumbo. Just the fact that 250 Jumbos were ever produced kinda... nevermind lol.

You're hilarious though, I kinda proved my point with sources. You can sit here and copy paste your 5 min google searches for more info. I've been reading up WWII tanks and aircraft for years.

Well my datas are MUCH more detailed then yours. :)
31 Jul 2014, 16:31 PM
#145
avatar of Affe

Posts: 578

jump backJump back to quoted post31 Jul 2014, 16:23 PMvarunax
Copying and pasting information doesn't make you any smarter you know? I've been saying this entire time that the Easy Eight is the successor to the Jumbo. Just the fact that 250 Jumbos were ever produced kinda... nevermind lol.

You're hilarious though, I kinda proved my point with sources. You can sit here and copy paste your 5 min google searches for more info. I've been reading up WWII tanks and aircraft for years.

Reading books for several years.....easy eight is the successor of the Jumbo....hahahahahahahaha easy eight was an improved Version of the Standard M4 sherman.:D
31 Jul 2014, 16:33 PM
#146
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Posts: 4928

jump backJump back to quoted post31 Jul 2014, 16:23 PMvarunax
Copying and pasting information doesn't make you any smarter you know? I've been saying this entire time that the Easy Eight is the successor to the Jumbo.

You're hilarious though, I kinda proved my point with sources. You can sit here and copy paste your 5 min google searches for more info. I've been reading up WWII tanks and aircraft for years.


The M4A3E8 was not the successor to the Jumbo, the Easy Eight was more like the successor to the M4A3 Sherman if anything. E just meant "Experimental Design", being a higher number doesn't mean it's better than the previous design. The M4A3E2 Assault Tank had a completely different role than the Easy Eight, it was meant to lead the attack against fortifications. The Easy Eight was just a general upgrade to the Sherman A3 series featuring improved suspension, armour, and gun.
31 Jul 2014, 16:39 PM
#147
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Posts: 578



The M4A3E8 was not the successor to the Jumbo, the Easy Eight was more like the successor to the M4A3 Sherman if anything. E just meant "Experimental Design", being a higher number doesn't mean it's better than the previous design. The M4A3E2 Assault Tank had a completely different role than the Easy Eight, it was meant to lead the attack against fortifications. The Easy Eight was just a general upgrade to the Sherman A3 series featuring improved suspension, armour, and gun.

Yep the Easy eight was based on this:
M4A3 Sherman
Country : United States
Role : Medium Tank
Production Date : June 1942
Manufacturer : Ford Motor Co
Number Produced : 1690
Crew : 5
Radio : SCR508 / 528 / 538
Road Speed : 42 Kilometers per Hour
Rough Speed : 26 Kilometers per Hour
Road Range: 209 Kilometers
Off-Road Range: Unknown Kilometers
Engine Name: Ford GAA III V-WC
Coolant : Water
Cylinders: V-8
Capacity: 18 Liters
Power : 500 hp @ 2600 rpm
Power / Weight Ratio : 16.5 hp per tonne
Transmission : Synchromesh
Gears : 5 Forward / 1 Reverse
Suspenion : Vertical Volute Spring
Fuel Type : Gasoline
Fuel Capacity: 636 Liters
Road Consumption: 3.04 Liters per Kilometer
Off-Road Consumption: Unknown Liters per Kilometer
Length : 5.91 meters
Height : 2.74 meters
Width : 2.61 meters
Weight : 30300 kilograms
Ground Clearance : 43 centimeters
Ground Pressure : 0.959 kg/cm²
Track Links : 79 per track
Track Width : 42.1 centimeters
Track Ground Contact : 373.4 centimeters
Gradiant : 31°
Vertical Obsticle : 0.61 meters
Fording Depth : 0.91 meters
Trench Crossing : 2.3 meters
Turning Radius : 19 meters
Main Gun : 75mm M3 L / 40
Gunsight : M.70 F
Primary Magnification : 3x magnification / 12° Field of View
Traverse : 360° (Electric)
Elevation : +25° / -10°
Main Gun Ammo : 97
Secondary Weapons : 1x 7.7mm M1919A4 (Coaxial - 2375 rounds)
1x 7.7mm M1919A4 (Bow - 2375 rounds)
1x 12.7mm M2 HB (AA - 300 rounds)
Hull Front (Upper) : 51mm @ 34°
Hull Front (Lower) : 51mm @ 34° - 90°
Hull Sides (Upper) : 38mm @ 90°
Hull Sides (Lower) : 38mm @ 90°
Hull Rear : 38mm @ 68° - 80°
Hull Top : 19mm @ 0° - 7°
Hull Bottom : 13mm - 25mm @ 0°
Turret Front : 76mm @ 60°
Turret Mantlet : 89mm @ 90°
Turret Sides : 51mm @ 85°
Turret Rear : 51mm @ 90°
Turret Top : 25mm @ 0°



The easy eights armor was upgraded from the former 51mm of the M4A3 to the 64mm and NOT to the Jumbos 102mm.

M4A3(76)W E8 HVSS Sherman
Country : United States
Role : Medium Tank
Production Date : August 1944
Manufacturer : Fisher Tank Arsenal
Detroit Arsenal
Number Produced : 3142
Crew : 5
Radio : SCR508 / 528 / 538
Road Speed : 42 Kilometers per Hour
Rough Speed : 26 Kilometers per Hour
Road Range: 161 Kilometers
Off-Road Range: Unknown Kilometers
Engine Name: Ford GAA-III
Coolant : Water
Cylinders: V-8
Capacity: 18 Liters
Power : 500 hp @ 2600 rpm
Power / Weight Ratio : 14.86 hp per tonne
Transmission : Synchromesh
Gears : 5 Forward / 1 Reverse
Suspenion : Horizontal Vertical Volute Spring
Fuel Type : Gasoline
Fuel Capacity: 764 Liters
Road Consumption: 4.75 Liters per Kilometer
Off-Road Consumption: Unknown Liters per Kilometer
Length : 7.6 meters
Height : 2.97 meters
Width : 3.1 meters
Weight : 33650 kilograms
Ground Clearance : 43 centimeters
Ground Pressure : 0.772 kg/cm²
Track Links : 79 per track
Track Width : 42.1 centimeters
Track Ground Contact : 373 centimeters
Gradiant : 31°
Vertical Obsticle : 0.6 meters
Fording Depth : 0.91 meters
Trench Crossing : 2.3 meters
Turning Radius : 19 meters
Main Gun : 76mm M1A2 L / 55
Gunsight : M.71 D
Primary Magnification : 5x magnification / 13° Field of View
Traverse : 360° (Electric)
Elevation : +25° / -12°
Main Gun Ammo : 71
Secondary Weapons : 1x 7.7mm M1919A4 (Coaxial - 2375 rounds)
1x 7.7mm M1919A4 (Bow - 2375 rounds)
1x 12.7mm M2 HB (AA - 300 rounds)
Hull Front (Upper) : 64mm @ 43°
Hull Front (Lower) : 51mm - 108mm @ 34° - 90°
Hull Sides (Upper) : 38mm @ 90°
Hull Sides (Lower) : 38mm @ 90°
Hull Rear : 38mm @ 68° - 80°
Hull Top : 19mm @ 0° - 7°
Hull Bottom : 13mm - 25mm @ 0°
Turret Front : 64mm @ 45° - 50°
Turret Mantlet : 89mm @ 90°
Turret Sides : 64mm @ 77° - 90°
Turret Rear : 64mm @ 90°
Turret Top : 25mm @ 0°



31 Jul 2014, 16:45 PM
#148
avatar of varunax

Posts: 210

Neither of you two have a clue what you're even posting lol.

Keep posting because it just reinforces your ignorance. It's fun to see people desperately nab for information to try to sound intelligent on topics they have absolutely no idea about.
31 Jul 2014, 16:47 PM
#149
avatar of Affe

Posts: 578

jump backJump back to quoted post31 Jul 2014, 16:45 PMvarunax
Neither of you two have a clue what you're even posting lol.

Keep posting because it just reinforces your ignorance. It's fun to see people desperately nab for information to try to sound intelligent on topics they have absolutely no idea about.

Affe > varunax. I think everybody here agrees that i have MUCH BETTER AND MUCH MORE DETAILED DATAS THEN YOU. PLS Show me all your detailed datas for the 102mm super heavy easy eight tank. PLS I CANT WAIT FOR IT!!!!
31 Jul 2014, 16:52 PM
#150
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Posts: 578

While i wait i post more datas for US tanks to give varunax a lesson:
M36 Jackson
Country : United States
Role : Tank Destroyer
Production Date : July 1944
Manufacturer : Fisher Tank Arsenal
Massey Harris Co.
American Locomotive Co.
Montreal Locomotive Works
Number Produced : 1413
Crew : 5
Radio : SCR 610
Road Speed : 42 Kilometers per Hour
Rough Speed : 29 Kilometers per Hour
Road Range: 249 Kilometers
Off-Road Range: 177 Kilometers
Engine Name: Ford GAA
Coolant : Water
Cylinders: V-8
Capacity: 18 Liters
Power : 450 hp @ 2600 rpm
Power / Weight Ratio : 15.73 hp per tonne
Transmission : Synchromesh
Gears : 5 Forward / 1 Reverse
Suspenion : Vertical Volute Spring
Fuel Type : Gasoline
Fuel Capacity: 873 Liters
Road Consumption: 3.51 Liters per Kilometer
Off-Road Consumption: 4.93 Liters per Kilometer
Length : 7.46 meters
Height : 3.28 meters
Width : 3.05 meters
Weight : 28600 kilograms
Ground Clearance : 43 centimeters
Ground Pressure : 0.906 kg/cm²
Track Links : 79 per track
Track Width : 42 centimeters
Track Ground Contact : 373.4 centimeters
Gradiant : 31°
Vertical Obsticle : 0.61 meters
Fording Depth : 0.91 meters
Trench Crossing : 2.3 meters
Turning Radius : 18.9 meters
Main Gun : 90mm M3 L / 52
Gunsight : M.71 G
Primary Magnification : 5x magnification / 13° Field of View
Traverse : 360° (Manual)
Elevation : +20° / 10°
Main Gun Ammo : 47
Secondary Weapons : 1x 12.7mm M2 HB (AA - 1000 rounds)
Hull Front (Upper) : 38mm @ 35°
Hull Front (Lower) : 51mm - 108mm @ 34° - 90°
Hull Sides (Upper) : 19mm @ 52°
Hull Sides (Lower) : 25mm @ 90°
Hull Rear : 19mm @ 52° - 90°
Hull Top : 19mm @ 0°
Hull Bottom : 13mm @ 0°
Turret Front : None
Turret Mantlet : 76mm @ 45°
Turret Sides : 32mm @ 85°
Turret Rear : 44mm - 127mm @ 90°
Turret Top : 10mm @ 0°


M10 Wolverine

Country : United States
Role : Tank Destroyer
Production Date : September 1942
Manufacturer : Fisher Tank Division
Number Produced : 4993
Crew : 5
Radio : SCR 610
Road Speed : 40 Kilometers per Hour
Rough Speed : 27 Kilometers per Hour
Road Range: 320 Kilometers
Off-Road Range: Unknown Kilometers
Engine Name: General Motors 6046
Coolant : Water
Cylinders: Twin V-6
Capacity: 13.96 Liters
Power : 410 hp @ 2900 rpm
Power / Weight Ratio : 13.7 hp per tonne
Transmission : Synchromesh
Gears : 5 Forward / 1 Reverse
Suspenion : Vertical Volute Spring
Fuel Type : Diesel
Fuel Capacity: 625 Liters
Road Consumption: 1.95 Liters per Kilometer
Off-Road Consumption: Unknown Liters per Kilometer
Length : 8.56 meters
Height : 2.11 meters
Width : 3.05 meters
Weight : 29937 kilograms
Ground Clearance : 43 centimeters
Ground Pressure : 0.941 kg/cm²
Track Links : 79 per track
Track Width : 42.1 centimeters
Track Ground Contact : 373.4 centimeters
Gradiant : 31°
Vertical Obsticle : 0.61 meters
Fording Depth : 0.91 meters
Trench Crossing : 2.3 meters
Turning Radius : 18.9 meters
Main Gun : 76mm 3 Inch M7 L / 53
Gunsight : M.71 D
Primary Magnification : 5x magnification / 13° Field of View
Traverse : 360° (Manual)
Elevation : +30° / -10°
Main Gun Ammo : 54
Secondary Weapons : 1x 12.7mm M2 HB (AA - 1000 rounds)
Hull Front (Upper) : 38mm @ 35°
Hull Front (Lower) : 51mm @ 34° - 90°
Hull Sides (Upper) : 19mm @ 52°
Hull Sides (Lower) : 25mm @ 90°
Hull Rear : 25mm @ 90°
Hull Top : 19mm @ 0°
Hull Bottom : 13mm @ 0°
Turret Front : None
Turret Mantlet : 57mm @ 45°
Turret Sides : 25mm @ 75°
Turret Rear : 25mm @ 90°
Turret Top : 19mm @ 0

M18 Hellcat
Country : United States
Role : Tank Destroyer
Production Date : July 1943
Manufacturer : Buick Motor Car Company of GM
Number Produced : 2507
Crew : 5
Radio : SCR 610
Road Speed : 80 Kilometers per Hour
Rough Speed : 32 Kilometers per Hour
Road Range: 161 Kilometers
Off-Road Range: Unknown Kilometers
Engine Name: Continental R-975 C4
Coolant : Air
Cylinders: V-9
Capacity: 15.9 Liters
Power : 460 hp @ 2400 rpm
Power / Weight Ratio : 25.99 hp per tonne
Transmission : 900T Torqmatic
Gears : 3 Forward / 1 Reverse
Suspenion : Torsion Bar
Fuel Type : Gasoline
Fuel Capacity: 750 Liters
Road Consumption: 4.66 Liters per Kilometer
Off-Road Consumption: Unknown Liters per Kilometer
Length : 6.65 meters
Height : 2.57 meters
Width : 2.87 meters
Weight : 17700 kilograms
Ground Clearance : 36 centimeters
Ground Pressure : 0.885 kg/cm²
Track Links : 83 per track
Track Width : 30.5 centimeters
Track Ground Contact : 295.9 centimeters
Gradiant : 31°
Vertical Obsticle : 0.91 meters
Fording Depth : 1.22 meters
Trench Crossing : 1.86 meters
Turning Radius : 20.1 meters
Main Gun : 76mm M1A2 L / 55
Gunsight : M.71 D
Primary Magnification : 5x magnification / 13° Field of View
Traverse : 360° (Hydraulic)
Elevation : +20° / -10°
Main Gun Ammo : 45
Secondary Weapons : 1x 12.7mm M2HB (AA - 800 rounds)
Hull Front (Upper) : 13mm @ 52° & 13mm @ 26°
Hull Front (Lower) : 13mm @ 37° & 13mm @ 66°
Hull Sides (Upper) : 13mm @ 67°
Hull Sides (Lower) : 13mm @ 90°
Hull Rear : 13mm @ 77°
Hull Top : 8mm @ 0°
Hull Bottom : 5mm @ 0°
Turret Front : 25mm @ 67°
Turret Mantlet : 19mm @ 30° - 90°
Turret Sides : 13mm @ 70°
Turret Rear : 13mm @ 81°
Turret Top : Open

varunax has of course much better datas then me.



31 Jul 2014, 16:54 PM
#151
avatar of varunax

Posts: 210

Not really, it's not your data.

And all that data can be found here: http://www.wwiivehicles.com/united-states/default.asp

Allies/Axis - Armored cars, tanks, light vehicles, tank destroyers without spamming a forum full of junk.

See ya later lol. Hope I didn't burn your ego too bad.
31 Jul 2014, 17:00 PM
#152
avatar of Affe

Posts: 578

jump backJump back to quoted post31 Jul 2014, 16:54 PMvarunax
Not really, it's not your data.

And all that data can be found here: http://www.wwiivehicles.com/united-states/default.asp

Allies/Axis - Armored cars, tanks, light vehicles, tank destroyers without spamming a forum full of junk.

See ya later lol. Hope I didn't burn your ego too bad.

Where is the detailed data for the super heavy 102mm easy eight? I cant find it on your side.

And you are wrong my datas are even more detailed than on the link you posted.:D
Affe 1 : 0 varunax.
31 Jul 2014, 17:32 PM
#153
avatar of The Soldier

Posts: 218

Hey guys, no need to spam the damn thread with long lists of stats. Not this thread.
31 Jul 2014, 17:37 PM
#154
avatar of Frencho

Posts: 220

Enough with the Wikipedia Spam. It's off topic and on top of that an unreliable source.
31 Jul 2014, 17:51 PM
#155
avatar of coh2player

Posts: 1571

Zaloga has several books about the Sherman (Including Armored Thunderbolt, Armored Victory 1945) which are in my posession. I also took a look at Hunnicutt's classic volumne and there was unfortunately little about the Easy Eight's armor.

What Zaloga says in his book about the Sherman 76mm is that the 'souped up' armor on the Easy-Eights were in fact a field conversion contracted to 3 Belgium factories by Patton's Third Army in Feb. 1945.

the US 4th AD, 6 AD, and 11 AD each had 36 Shermans (including Easy-Eights) given this especially thick armor to their front face. For extents and purposes, it was an improvisation so I can see the confusion going on in this thread. I had not heard of this '173mm' armored E8 before, and improvised conversions would be varying.

On a side note, the Sherman Jumbo's frontal armor could defeat German 88mm L/56. It was 140mm thick. Also, Sherman Jumbos were universally re-armed with the 76mm gun and had their 30 cal. replaced with 50 cal. in early 1945.

1 Aug 2014, 19:09 PM
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Can we just add the Pershing already!!
1 Aug 2014, 19:46 PM
#157
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Many shermans in field had improvised armor of all sorts added to them, including the welding of armored plated from destroyed tanks onto the hull

Lets just pretend the Sherman E8 is a sherman with improvised armor. Problem solved
1 Aug 2014, 19:57 PM
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I think they will. Especially if they have their "5-year plan", as they said they had. We just need to play the waiting game. It'll come eventually.

If it isn't the Pershing, it will be something else that we will all enjoy I'm sure. I would be okay with either the Pershing or Rangers to be honest. I miss those bastards.
2 Aug 2014, 00:40 AM
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Pershing, Jumbo...both possible in the long run.
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3 Aug 2014, 14:43 PM
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Eh the Jumbo might be a bit too similar to the 105mm Sherman in terms of role: the Jumbo is just an up-armoured Sherman but the same older gun. Heck a "Jumbo" would technically fit by simply giving regular Shermans an up-armour upgrade rather than an actual call-in; that's pretty much the real difference. if the Jumbo is just a beefier version of the Sherman, it doesn't have much reason to replace or even complement the vanilla version. Perhaps if this "Jumbo upgrade" could come alongside a flame tank?

The M4A3R "Zippo" Sherman (that is, flame tank without a trailer, that's the Crocodile) would fit a heavy infantry support role for obvious reasons.

These tanks don't seem to fit into the Heavy role, since both are just versions of the Sherman.
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