We believe the issue is strongly rooted in the structure of the dispatch system rather than the unit itself which is performing as intended. There are changes in the pipeline being tested now, we will provide more detailed information once we are more confident it's the right direction to take.
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13 Aug 2014, 15:41 PM
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13 Aug 2014, 15:46 PM
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We believe the issue is strongly rooted in the structure of the dispatch system rather than the unit itself which is performing as intended. There are changes in the pipeline being tested now, we will provide more detailed information once we are more confident it's the right direction to take.
Interesting. Thanks for the update. It's always nice to hear from Relic devs!
13 Aug 2014, 15:46 PM
#143
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You are hinting at a double-easy eight call-in...
We believe the issue is strongly rooted in the structure of the dispatch system rather than the unit itself which is performing as intended. There are changes in the pipeline being tested now, we will provide more detailed information once we are more confident it's the right direction to take.
13 Aug 2014, 15:52 PM
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No, he's hinting that the feedback about tying it to tech is being taken on board and tested.
How the hell did you read it as a double call in.
How the hell did you read it as a double call in.
13 Aug 2014, 16:16 PM
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Yeah, he's definitely referring to tying call ins to tech. I'm excited for that though. CoH2 will be much better off. It will definitely take some work to smooth it out but I think it will be a lot easier to balance and honestly it will really change how late game is played for the Soviet and Wehrmacht, and even early game for certain doctrines/factions too.
This is a step in the right direction!
On another note, I can see Wehrmacht being really weakened by this because Tiger is their saving grace right now against the US.
This is a step in the right direction!
On another note, I can see Wehrmacht being really weakened by this because Tiger is their saving grace right now against the US.
13 Aug 2014, 16:28 PM
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No, he's hinting that the feedback about tying it to tech is being taken on board and tested.
How the hell did you read it as a double call in.
Probably because the call-in system has not changed ever and the only statements made on the subject have been in the line of "we want to keep no-tech call-ins a viable strategy".
13 Aug 2014, 16:38 PM
#147
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We believe the issue is strongly rooted in the structure of the dispatch system rather than the unit itself which is performing as intended. There are changes in the pipeline being tested now, we will provide more detailed information once we are more confident it's the right direction to take.
How is easy eight at 135 fuel performing as intended over panzer 4 at 125 fuel?Is the 10 fuel gap meriting such a performance boost?then panther at 40 fuel more plus teching than easy eight and no AI,low DPS and misses half the time...hmm.as intended.Plz nerf the panther range.Its just paper stat pushing up its price,nothing more.
13 Aug 2014, 16:41 PM
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We believe the issue is strongly rooted in the structure of the dispatch system rather than the unit itself which is performing as intended. There are changes in the pipeline being tested now, we will provide more detailed information once we are more confident it's the right direction to take.
I hope you keep in mind the massive performance gap between the Easy Eight and the M4C or Panzer IV, despite the price similarities.
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13 Aug 2014, 16:43 PM
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Easy Eight might be at its place. Then that´s one reason more that the Panther needs a buff.
13 Aug 2014, 16:54 PM
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Easy Eight might be at its place. Then that´s one reason more that the Panther needs a buff.
And the Panzer IV and M4C and maybe T-34/85. That or E8 is over-performing for 135 fuel
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13 Aug 2014, 16:58 PM
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Keep in mind if the tank is tied to a tech cost the effective cost and the timing of the tank also goes up. In this case, even if the E8 is better than the PIV it would still come out late enough to give that unit time to shine and pick up veterancy.
This is a good step by Relic and should be encourage by the community.
This is a good step by Relic and should be encourage by the community.
13 Aug 2014, 16:58 PM
#152
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if e8 stays at 135 fuel, panther and p4(esp okw call in) need some serious reworking.
13 Aug 2014, 17:05 PM
#153
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We believe the issue is strongly rooted in the structure of the dispatch system rather than the unit itself which is performing as intended. There are changes in the pipeline being tested now, we will provide more detailed information once we are more confident it's the right direction to take.
Really encouraged to see the call in system being addressed. This is has been one of the biggest issues with the meta for the last year plus.
13 Aug 2014, 17:40 PM
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We believe the issue is strongly rooted in the structure of the dispatch system rather than the unit itself which is performing as intended. There are changes in the pipeline being tested now, we will provide more detailed information once we are more confident it's the right direction to take.
Excellent! yes, the call-in system being too easy to use across the board is definitely the game,s biggest problem. I don't think the E8 overperforms in any major way, but the problem is when the US player can just grab a Lieutenant, maybe a AA HT, and then save all his fuel to get E8s as soon as he got the CP without having to sink fuel in teching. The same is true of most endgame call-ins.
13 Aug 2014, 17:43 PM
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Double T34/85 are 10CP and Double PanzerIV are 9CP. Should look this.
13 Aug 2014, 18:17 PM
#156
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People really need to stop making 1:1 comparisons of the Easy8 to P4's or other tanks. Can the Easy8 have a Pak covering its flank? Or double faust PGs on its side? US armor needs all the help it can get.
13 Aug 2014, 18:22 PM
#157
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People really need to stop making 1:1 comparisons of the Easy8 to P4's or other tanks. Can the Easy8 have a Pak covering its flank? Or double faust PGs on its side? US armor needs all the help it can get.
Try using paks offensively.Ur saying ostheer is condemned to play only defensively till tiger.
The so called 'tank -hunter' panther has useless range it can't utilize on attack due to need for spotter..poor accuracy especially on move.And even if it actually flanked it ,its utterly poor DPS won't kill fast.Add to that it has to flee from the first AT gun and even harassed by couple bazookas into backtracking.This 1 tank tiger ostheer endgame meta has been going on since march and frankly its becoming extremely boring.Its even worse now that elfant is dead and buried.
13 Aug 2014, 18:23 PM
#158
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People really need to stop making 1:1 comparisons of the Easy8 to P4's or other tanks. Can the Easy8 have a Pak covering its flank? Or double faust PGs on its side? US armor needs all the help it can get.
The AT of the AM is not lacking. In fact they have the best TD's in the game.
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13 Aug 2014, 18:42 PM
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You are hinting at a double-easy eight call-in...
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And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
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13 Aug 2014, 18:59 PM
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Try using paks offensively.Ur saying ostheer is condemned to play only defensively till tiger.
The so called 'tank -hunter' panther has useless range it can't utilize on attack due to need for spotter..poor accuracy especially on move.And even if it actually flanked it ,its utterly poor DPS won't kill fast.Add to that it has to flee from the first AT gun and even harassed by couple bazookas into backtracking.This 1 tank tiger ostheer endgame meta has been going on since march and frankly its becoming extremely boring.Its even worse now that elfant is dead and buried.
completely agree.
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