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24 Apr 2014, 15:29 PM
#21
avatar of Omega_Warrior

Posts: 2561

that Soviet commander is going to be sweet, I do not really like the Guards with PPSH, they do not have any armor and PTRS cannot shoot on the move, it seems like a unit with little purpose. The mobile defense doctrine seems to be well balanced though, I just hope the puma acts like a strong glass cannon like it did in WWII.
They come with an M5 though. It's the perfect doctrine for going T4.
24 Apr 2014, 15:30 PM
#22
avatar of MorgolKing

Posts: 148

This is really disappointing :(

Relic: Where are the commanders we've been waiting for? Red Banner Division, Collapse the Pocket, Panther Command Tank etc.???
24 Apr 2014, 15:34 PM
#23
avatar of vasa1719

Posts: 2635 | Subs: 4

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This is really disappointing :(

Relic: Where are the commanders we've been waiting for? Red Banner Division, Collapse the Pocket, Panther Command Tank etc.???


Relic just joked :).
Neo
24 Apr 2014, 15:36 PM
#24
avatar of Neo

Posts: 471

Thank you for new free content, Relic!
24 Apr 2014, 15:38 PM
#25
avatar of Sgt.Chickenface
Patrion 310

Posts: 155

Aaaa some new units... Shermi and Puma... Swell... Wonder how they will perform? Thanks relic!
24 Apr 2014, 15:42 PM
#26
avatar of Sarantini
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Posts: 2181

The guards have PPSh and some other weapon, maybe SVT or just a mosin. they dont have any PTRS.
24 Apr 2014, 15:48 PM
#27
avatar of Tristan44

Posts: 915

WOW!!! Awesome!!! Free commanders with NEW units! I'm loving it!! I like the ostruppen, sounds like you could get a different degree of weaponry and maybe vet (?) when you call in. Whatever sounds great but says they are released from western front, shouldn't they be volks and not ostruppen since ostruppen fought in the east...
24 Apr 2014, 15:50 PM
#28
avatar of Meliorare

Posts: 48

WOW!!! Awesome!!! Free commanders with NEW units! I'm loving it!! I like the ostruppen, sounds like you could get a different degree of weaponry and maybe vet (?) when you call in. Whatever sounds great but says they are released from western front, shouldn't they be volks and not ostruppen since ostruppen fought in the east...


Maybe they were Osttruppen sent to fight on the Western Front, and now they're being called back.
24 Apr 2014, 15:51 PM
#29
avatar of AvNY

Posts: 862

jump backJump back to quoted post24 Apr 2014, 15:15 PMBurts



Except that that would make no historical sense.

the soviets got 4000 thousand shermans from USA. Why can't they have one of the more numeruos tanks they had actually be in game?

While there were 1300 tigers, they are present in nearly half of all doctrines.


To understand much of the German design and balance you have to remember that a huge number of the CoH buyers and players and either Nazi fanbois or Wehrmacht fanbois. They have real hardons for the kit of the WWII German army. So if you want to sell them it has to be the things they have come to expect, like Tigers everywhere that never have the problems of the real thing.

That will explain why there are Elephants (only about 60 ever made) and non-doctrinal ostwinds (only 40 were ever made).

Another item in vCOH was the FG-42 (the Fals compact light machine gun). Only some 7,000 were ever built. That is a teeny tiny production by light weapon standards, and it is because the weapon was full of problems when used in the field. But I bet it reappears in COH2, and working as they wished it did and not as it actually did.

By contrast, the US made over 200,000 BARs (A2 model) and gave tens of thousands of A1 models (100,000 made) to Great Britain and other allies as aid in WW2.

Compare that with the opposite often being true of Allied kit. The Sherman was a superbly BUILT tank. And many of the flaws we think were endemic to them were fixed by the time the Shermans were doing battle in France and after. It had high up-time, easy maintenance, and often could be returned to the battlefield easily even after being knocked out. (This latter created its own problems because the crew was often incapacitated, or dead, and a new one would be put together from untrained reinforcements arriving from the US. Untrained troops will not perform well and that will reflect on the statistics of the equipment.)
24 Apr 2014, 15:51 PM
#30
avatar of Senseo1990

Posts: 317

This is just great thanks Relic :)

One negative side effect is that I will never use any other unit besides the Puma again though...

<444>3 Puma
24 Apr 2014, 16:02 PM
#31
avatar of Lümmel
Patrion 14

Posts: 542 | Subs: 1

Anyone seen stats for Puma and Sherman somewhere yet?
24 Apr 2014, 16:02 PM
#32
avatar of What Doth Life?!
Patrion 27

Posts: 1664

Both of these doctrines look great! Specifically for 1v1 due to the lower cp requirements for the call-ins. I hope the M5 can be upgraded with a quad like a normal one.
24 Apr 2014, 16:05 PM
#33
avatar of IpKaiFung
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Posts: 1708 | Subs: 2

I hope the M5 can be upgraded with a quad like a normal one.


It can but you need T3 or T4 to do so.
24 Apr 2014, 16:06 PM
#34
avatar of 89456132

Posts: 211

The allied supply drop varies but the axis one does not? I think it's good that the plane can be shot down easily, more random massive damage-hits around the map (hopefully the plane always comes from your own base direction).
Guards with PPShs seem... interesting.
24 Apr 2014, 16:11 PM
#35
avatar of BIG RON
Donator 11

Posts: 172

Can't wait to test me out some Sherman later!
24 Apr 2014, 16:19 PM
#36
avatar of Katitof

Posts: 17886 | Subs: 8

Puma have 400hp, 160 dmg something between 4-5s reload time and penetration decent enough to rape T34. All that for 80 fuel and 270mp.

Sherman seems to be T34/85 with pintle MG.
24 Apr 2014, 16:20 PM
#37
avatar of Nebaka

Posts: 133

jump backJump back to quoted post24 Apr 2014, 15:20 PMAffe
I just complain that the soviets still missing there own Units like KV-85, ISU-122, SU-122 and SU-100 and while all this is still missing we get now american Equipment that already come in june with the USA faction.

WHY MUST IT BE THE SHERMAN?
WHY NOT SU-100 ISU-122 OR KV-85?
WHY?


Model. They have already created a model for Western Front and now just added it. Relic is sooooo lazy.
24 Apr 2014, 16:26 PM
#38
avatar of AvNY

Posts: 862

jump backJump back to quoted post24 Apr 2014, 16:19 PMKatitof
Puma have 400hp, 160 dmg something between 4-5s reload time and penetration decent enough to rape T34. All that for 80 fuel and 270mp.

Sherman seems to be T34/85 with pintle MG.


160 dmg from a 20mm gun? That is just crazy. Unless of course there is no penetration.

Here is another example of game design for the fanbois. Only 100 mk2 pumas (the 50mm) were ever made. Only 200 of the 20mm.

24 Apr 2014, 16:31 PM
#39
avatar of Katitof

Posts: 17886 | Subs: 8

jump backJump back to quoted post24 Apr 2014, 16:26 PMAvNY


160 dmg from a 20mm gun? That is just crazy. Unless of course there is no penetration.

Here is another example of game design for the fanbois. Only 100 mk2 pumas (the 50mm) were ever made. Only 200 of the 20mm.



Umm, its not 20mm gun.
Its 5 cm KwK 39 L/60 AT gun.
24 Apr 2014, 16:36 PM
#40
avatar of Kreatiir

Posts: 2819

Thanks idd for the new content, I'm eager to try it out!

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